You wanted Steem to be fair

in #steem6 years ago

Often, people bring up the fairness of Steem, whether it be on the rewards on various types of content or how whales control the pool with their stakes or that some people are better at networking than others. I have heard it isn't fair because of language, economic, skill, experience and a whole range of other factors that are cited as evidence of unfairness.

I came across this quote today thanks to @ryivhnn

“You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.”
― J. Michael Straczynski

It is a quote from Babylon 5.

Imagine if Steem was fair.

 

Let's say there is a hypothetical Steem God that is able to judge all pertinent factors across time and space and then distribute the pool based upon things such as; quality of work, value to the blockchain, background experience, effort applied, usefulness, future community value, investment worth and the like - Would your rewards go up, or down?

Remembering that this is of course impossible but, it is something to consider when claiming unfairness of Steem. For example, many people complain about how the whales act, ,don't share enough or are lazy but, most have no idea what these people do or ore importantly, have done to have their stake.

Most people on Steem conveniently attribute only what happens on Steem to an account. It is unfair that a whale with 1 Million Steem is getting about 100 Steem a day of interest but no one asks, how did that account get a million Steem to begin with? Trust me, they aren't all mined in the early days of the platform and even those that were, had skills that most people still don't possess today.

It is also unfair because some people can buy without having to go hungry, unfair because some people have talents to write, unfair that some have the personality and experience in life that makes their content more demanded than others. The list of unfair is long.

In my opinion, one of the worst things a person with talent can do is limit themselves because others are jealous of what they have and claim, it is unfair. Be your damn best, no matter if your best is brilliance or, bullshit in comparison to brilliance.

It would be interesting to see the pool distributed fairly for a month or two and work out WHO the Steem God would consider valuable. It would be interesting to see how many gainers there would be and, how many losers if you imagine that instead of proof of stake, there was a precise proof of value mechanism to reward producers.

Do you think those buying votes on their work will have Steem God reward them similarly, would the shitposters get more or less, what about the autovoters and bots, would those with high stake get rewarded as now or would there be adjustments made depending on how they have used that stake in the past or, what they were like in real-life? What would the God do with those who are suffering economically and selling, would they be rewarded more or less based on the value to the chain they bring?

Do you want fair?

 
Do you want Steem to be fair, do you want it to reward based on effort put in to the blockchain and how much value your account brings? Do you think you would be better off or "all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?"

Would you be happy living with Steem Karma.

There is a mass of activity that happens on Steem that very few people know much about, let alone know if it is bringing value to the chain or not. So many initiatives have started off strong and fallen to the wayside, forgotten by the very people who claimed they were doing it because, it was so important. What would happen if all the promises and claims made were factored into the God's calculations, would you be better off?

What would happen if every post, every comment and every vote you made, the Steem God could know the intention behind it, ,know your mind and heart and be able to judge its value to the community, to Steem and reward it at the exact percentage it deserves - Are you earning more or less than now?

If these calculations are valued across the system every 7 days, how much pull on the pool do your actions have when connected absolutely to the value they bring to the chain. Are you getting the equivalent of whale votes or, are you getting flagged by the Steem God?

As I have said many times before, I am not a fan of fair in the human sense as people limit it to, fair for themselves without regard for others which, is not fairness at all. In my view of the world, we are all living in what is fair by universal definition as; We each have the ability to be our best each day, regardless of resources or circumstance.

Maybe you have peaked.
Maybe I haven't.

Taraz
[ a Steem original ]

Maybe I am lucky after all, as who knows how bad my life might have been otherwise.

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I'm just a small boy with a big dream.

In my imagination, the fair Steem wouldn't be about rewards but people been found and viewed based on the talent they have and people would interact. Not commenting in hopes of rewards, but to shop appreciation.

I'm just saying this because tl;dr and I'm just hoping my comment will get an upvote.

I'm more into economical right than left, even though I'm not a radical capitalist. I could imagine how some more left-minded would see Steem as a fair platform if nobody could purchase the power, but then again.. why would Steem have value then? The thought of fair being everyone on equal ground OR people being rewarded only for their talents is not what gives Steem any value. And it's the value most are after.

People are generally conflicted in the things they want and what they say and do and on steem, it isn't any different. People want value, they need to understand what value is and where it comes from. If they are interested in only the value of content, they are in luck because one can consume it for free.

I don't want fair as that would be average. I don't see myself as Mr Average and never will. I want to work for what I am worth and offer the best to give me the opportunity to gain an advantage over the average users. No one is entitled to anything in life or on Steem unless you put yourself out and do what is required. It is not easy for some, but it is easy for those that know what they want.

Take the question Acid asked in a post few days ago. "What would you do if i supported your growth?".
Do you know what the comment section turned into?

Im a good boy and if you give me some money ill be an even better good boy.

I will bet you anything there are hundreds if not thousands more deserving individuals then those that dropped a comment on his post.
Do you know what those people didnt think about?
They didnt think about the fact that there are others out there that deserve Acids delegation and votes more, they didnt think that there might be a superb talent out there somewhere that could grow into something the STEEM blockchain can showcase. They didnt think that someone out there might be doing something more then them and if that person got that delegation he/she could do much more for everyone.

No. They thought this is my opportunity. It doesnt matter if someone more deserving should get this.
And thats really the crux of things here.
Its only unfair if im not doing well. But ill take anything i can get even if i really should not be the one taking it.
And thats ok. Because everyone is like that. It might be bad for the platform, but most people are like that. They delegate to bots, they lie and cheat their way into reputation. They screw people over. They manipulate... etc.
People always put themselves in front of others and if they dont end up in front, they scream "unfair!".
Whale to dolphin to minnow. Its all the same crap. The "fairness attribute" doesnt belong to any Steem class...
People are people and for most part are the same.

And thats why i will say that "STEEM" is indeed unfair. Because there will always be those that will complain about selfishness, unfairness but when faced with an opportunity to be selfless and fair, honest to the principles they claim to uphold, they will shy away from it.

And thats the most unfair thing of all. Being a hypocrite.

It depends. I know many people who support others through those kinds of posts however, it is an opportuity for many and even though there might be some more deserving, they aren't necessarily known so, what then? If they aren't on that post and no one is willing to put their name forward? This is the problem though as most people who may deserve don't ask but at the same time, they probably should learn to ask also.

The other problem with those kinds of posts as illustrations of the ecosystem is that one can't see who isn't there by choice. I think that in the time I have been here, I have never been on one of them for myself but, I have encouraged others to put their hand up to be considered and, have supported some in that too.

Fairness is a strange animal because, it doesn't exist.

I mean it would have probably been a better idea if Acid made the choice himself. It shouldnt be about what you think you deserve. It should be about what others think you deserve. Thats a problem right now since the focus of people is completely on themselves.

they aren't necessarily known so, what then?

Im not saying that the folks in Acids comment section are hypocrites, i cant know their frame of mind or values. That was an example in case they all were the kind that would scream "unfair" when trash hits trending, quality goes unrewarded or whales selfvotes... But id go with this SNL sketch for your question that paints well, what i mean in this case.

I will have to watch it later as I don't have a headset and everyone is asleep, but I thought I would leave you with a comment from another user I just got:

:D

... indeed. :)

Would your rewards go up, or down?

Literally everyone's rewards would go up because the value of Steem would go x10000+ in the face of proof-of-brain becoming a reality.

Crypto naturally creates these snowball effects where value just keeps getting added to the platform. In the face of "unfair" distribution, we'll just have to wait a bit longer to get there.

That being said I haven't missed the point: Stop being entitled.
Always good advice.

Yes, I agree with you and perhaps should have written, all things remaining equal yada yada. If possible, it would be a mammoth technological leap.

You look at "fairness" from a different aspect and you are right. I think that yeah it seems a big unfairness on everything in life but the fairness perception of universe is different from the way of we consider.. And as you mention, what the thing that we should do is just doing our best..

I should say first I always enjoy your posts.

This one however should go down in the Hall of Fame.

I've written about this many times, but this is so well stated and so true.

Well done! Well done!

Thanks. It can't be written about enough I think as there is a huge amount of entitlement and misunderstanding here. To be honest, other than having the money pour in, no one really knows what precisely is going to make Steem valuable but, it is going to be in my opinion. Most likely, through a million little steps, some right, some wrong, some carried by luck.

It can't be written about enough I think as there is a huge amount of entitlement and misunderstanding here.

¡¿FAIRNESS!?


Ha! ¿What else?

People who claims Steem to be unfair, are in general those who lack the support they themselves believe they deserve.

I don't think that Steem is fair at all, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I think it's unfair. I can honestly say that I don't appreciate shitposters raking in $100+ per day or week. I'd rather see other authors who brings quality get that portion of the rewards.

However, quality is in the eye of the beholder. Which is another important thing to remember. What I believe is quality, others might think is garbage.

People have to realize that all these beliefs of how much you are worth or what you deserve doesn't mean much for others than themselves.

I absolutely love your look on this. It's such a different perspective from what I'm used to be seeing around here. I admit, I was one of those people who complained about Steemit not being fair and all that in the very beginning when I first started out, but now I realise that I felt that way out of anger of not seeing my posts do well.

I was the one who was unfair.

I didn't think of how much I contributed to the community and only thought of my own self-interest and didn't give a fuck about others. But fortunately, I'm out of that phase now with a valuable lesson in my mind.

Like you said, it's only fair if it's fair for all and not just for one person. The value you bring into the community is what you get rewarded for. How you make your audience feel and what lessons and qualities you can teach them is what makes you stand out from everyone else which is exactly how you eventually make progress and gather attention on your work.

Yes, it's unfair. But it's fairly unfair. Those people who earn the big bucks have earned that unfairness either because of taking huge risks or having exclusive skills which no one else has.

I'm really impressed by how you explained this concept. It really opened my mind a bit and made me think. Thanks for this wonderful piece of writing. Very thought-provocative :)

Yes, it's unfair. But it's fairly unfair. Those people who earn the big bucks have earned that unfairness either because of taking huge risks or having exclusive skills which no one else has.

People very rarely factor in the risks taken with both the assets and the reputation for people to get where they are. A lot s given up at times that no one else will ever know.

Thanks for this wonderful piece of writing. Very thought-provocative :)

You are welcome.

If the main concern of those is for Steem to be fair, I feel sorry for them considering their thoughts about the real world and life! Nothing is ever fair whether good or bad, equilibrium is based on human behaviors which as we know can be irrational more often than not. Before pushing for a community to be fair, first one should have a thought about how to be secure about their place there.

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In my opinion, one of the worst things a person with talent can do is limit themselves because others are jealous of what they have and claim, it is unfair.

People shouldn't be jealous of those with talent, because, even though they aren't as talented at the moment, they can improve themselves and try to surpass those with talent! I love STEEM because of this, it makes me proactive, it makes me be better and it makes me learn new things. If you put in the work and dedication you can make it on STEEM, just like any other social network...

Instagram and facebook influencers also had to put in the work and hours to network and create content to reach where they reached, everyone can be a STEEM user, to be an influencer it requires much more!

Well, so far the thing that comes closest to that STEEM god is steem-ua, and other AI that learns and reward good users on the blockchain.