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RE: Sort By Total Human Eyeball Views Tab: A Request To The Devs
Here is the GitHub issue for it:
https://github.com/steemit/steemit.com/issues/812
Here is the GitHub issue for it:
https://github.com/steemit/steemit.com/issues/812
do you think by having this exist that people will begin gaming it even though there is not a reward structure in place? Don't you think that humans will be able to tell which posts are gamed (with bots) and which ones are actually popular reads? We could as a group downvote any posts that are clearly gamed....
I just created a github account and added my opinion. i've finally caved in.....
When money is involved (and more views translates into a better opportunity to make money) it will be gamed (unfortunately).
Welcome to GitHub :)
you're missing it. The view count tab will not be monetized. Humans will need to pick from that list. I think it's worth a try. The other option doesn't look good.
I realize that it will not be monetized, but it will basically become a tab that gives extra exposure to whoever can develop the best view counter bot. The real humans that the tab would intend to help would be buried.
Yeah, but sadly people would still find a way to have bots view the post, thus moving it to the top of the list. While the views themselves wouldn't be monetized there is plenty of value in being at the top of the list.
Sure, you could have it track views and try to determine if someone used their bot to game the system for views but what does that really accomplish? If you are going to downvote a post because a bunch of bots viewed it, whats to stop that bot owner from viewing any random post and watching the masses show up to downvote it?
Doesn't look promising. The whole idea of having a site that is created in order to find popular reading content, which would grow user base is not considered important. Wow, just wow. The divide between developers and people grows wider.
The main problem with it is that if eyeballs were all it took to get a lot of attention, people would game the system to get a lot of eyeballs. (It is not hard to simulate a lot of people viewing the page.) Making the system so that it is not easy to abuse would require a more significant change. Stuff like that is good to have, but it is not at the top of the priority list.
All metrics (number of votes, number of views, number of comments) that could be used for selecting content or for (semi-)automatic curating can and will be manipulated as soon as there is the slightest chance of these metrics' influencing rewards. It would also be a problem for my proposal here.
I'm not sure we should let that stop us as the threat of manipulation can kill almost all initiatives, leaving us powerless. Maybe it would be better to just do it and worry about manipulation later, and then strike down hard on any and all manipulators we can find.
Some will argue that the code is the law, so manipulation beyond intended use is allowed, but I don't find that very convincing.
good points. I agree that it should not stop us from moving forward.