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yes and that is why I refute the first claim in the thread

On what ground...can you elaborate?

The first claim is: Grow your coins , not gamble with them

You can't grow without gamble. Even Jesus had a parable for that regarding faith.

The term gamble is correct in that context ie long term hold...And to correct you, you can grow without gamble ...being being conservative with your choice if you know what I mean

Good point...even banks can steal your money including your central government....I trust crypto more than them.