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RE: Learning from History: One of Steem's "Grand Challenges"

in #steemtalk9 days ago (edited)

I simply don't think that this is a problem that will ever get solved. Steemit's become a place where the majority of users are here to maximise their returns and to hell with the consequences.

Whether that's by delegating to a voting bot, farming #krsuccess, targeting autovotes in WhereIn or #animals, the majority will do whatever it takes to get paid, even if their perceived "value return" is at the detriment of the very asset that needs to thrive.

I once learned about "Performance" vs. "Performance Capability (PC)". If you constantly squeeze the maximum performance out of an asset, without maintaining it (it's PC), then it will eventually stop working (break) and need greater maintenance. Whereas maintaining it's PC provides a far better long-term performance. Steem / Steemit has done so little maintenance (PC) that we're seeing the consequence but unlike a machine, once it breaks, there'll be no fixing it.

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I simply don't think that this is a problem that will ever get solved.

Yeah, Steem's history seems to suggest that you're right. I think it can be solved, in principle, but I don't see a lot of motivation in the ecosystem to even try.

Whether that's by delegating to a voting bot, farming #krsuccess

During the recent playtime with steemcleaners et al., I was looking at some of their old posts. It made me wonder if this problem is the actual reason why non-Steemit accounts were added to the Hive exclusion list (?) back in 2020. I wasn't even aware of that community, but the steemcleaners folks were already complaining about low-value content there in like 2018 or 2019. Maybe it was just an easy way to eliminate a high percentage of the low-value content producers in a single swipe(?). Pure speculation, but it makes more sense to me than the stated reason.

I once learned about "Performance" vs. "Performance Capability (PC)".

Yeah, with recent proposal approvals, maybe we're turning a corner on maintenance, but we're deep in deficit. That's part of why I suggested reactivation of advertising on steemit.com. I don't know where the revenue comes from that keeps Steemit afloat, but it seems that they're resource-constrained. If they sell STEEM, that hurts the price, so it would be good for them to develop non-STEEM income streams. I'm not generally a fan of advertising on the web sites that I use, but reality wins in the end. ;-)

I don't see a lot of motivation in the ecosystem to even try.

Given that it’s some of the top witnesses that have created this problem and “profit” from it… some of which doing so with delegations from Steemit Inc… I can’t see a future where this improves.

Presumably the steemcleaners motivation was protecting their own position of dominance. I’ve seen nothing but narcissism in any of my interactions with them.


My reference to performance capability was as much to do with the authors as the technology. There’s so little ensuring that the performance of authors is maintained and with auto votes, I’d even argue that the opposite is true. Auto votes lead to complacency and a reduction in quality.

Al parecer, mientras haya dinero de por medio, jamás habrá una administración justa y equitativa del mismo.

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Quick question - you once shared a link to all of the active conversions. I have a few in progress but my wallet doesn't show them and I don't know how else to find them. Can you point me in the right direction please?

I think this shows completed conversions, not conversions in progress. Not sure if that's what you're remembering? I can't think of a link to active conversions at the moment.

The only place I'm thinking of to see active conversion (aside from slapping together a shell script) is in the upvu wallet. They're visible there without being logged into the account.

Yes, that’s the one. If it really bothers me, I suppose I’ll need to write a script.

Sometimes, they show in my wallet but for some reason, not always!

El primer paso para fortalecer cualquier empresa que no marcha como se espera es evaluar lo que se ha hecho desde su creación. Es decir, lo bueno y lo malo. Así como también lo que no se ha logrado hacer. Las propuestas de los gerentes de alto rango no siempre son acertadas. ¿Qué te parece la idea de generar más debates sobre la historia de Steemit y el éxito de sus proyectos? Parece mentira. Pero, los seres humanos buscan muy lejos lo que tienen muy cerca.

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