RE: Bot and Paid For: Will Bots Be The Downfall of Social Media?
Yes, those fire alarms are indeed annoying. I suppose it would be easier to simply cut the wires instead of doing something to put out the fire or stick my fingers in my ears and go la, la, la so I can't hear it and tell others who still hear the alarms going off not to worry about it so they can stay calm, be at peace and pretend nothing is wrong. The problems our planet faces are totally unnecessary and preventable, but why try to do anything about it? I'll recycle my plastic water bottles and buy an electric car and everything will be just fine.
The Titanic is unsinkable, after all. Keep dancing. Guess I'll belly up to the bar and order a few double Scotches to make it all go away, grab a table with a good view of the iceberg and listen to the orchestra play on even as the dance floor begins to tilt.
The Earth has faced mass extinctions before and survived. Cyanobacteria lived through all of them and they will live through this one too. Humanity isn't very important in the greater scheme of things. Cyanobacteria is. Something else will rise in humanity's stead, maybe something even more interesting, something that isn't so delusional.
Humanists identify with humanity. That is the source of their pain in the face of human suffering and the threat of annihilation. It's not the warning bells that cause the pain.
One must transcend identification with the human form to identify with consciousness directly. I'm an environmentalist. I no longer identify with humanity, but I do identify with the biosphere, that mantle of life that covers the Earth in a living skin. That is the source of my pain. I have compassion for all life and lament the rapidly expanding extinction of species. I have little compassion left for individual humans or even humanity as a whole, since they do have the ability to transcend but steadfastly refuse to evolve and instead choose to indulge in their own comfort and dominance at the expense of all else.
It is not my intent to share my pain. It is my intent to slap people in the fact to wake them up. That might hurt a tad. Those who sit and cry will be miserable and pass from this sphere as will those who engage in denial. The rest might rise up and do something about it. Those are the people I'm trying to reach.
This post is now dead. I'm happy to continue this thread but let's do it elsewhere.
Did it ever make a difference in your encounters with people when you beat them? Which one of them then pondered and developed further on that basis?
Is it the case that you have ever thought that your fallibility fell back on you and that you were accused of what you accuse others? How does it fit together that you reject humanity, when at the same time they are just as much a part of the organism earth as all other life? My conclusion from this is that you differentiate between your humanity and being part of nature and make a separation. That means you're a pest, too. And as long as you think of yourself as such, you will behave like that. I can see that you're turning yourself down.
By showing people their ruthlessness and wickedness, the only thing that results from this is discouragement and feelings of guilt. You mock their tears and their grief on top of it. As long as a person feels guilty, there is little good in it. I've heard about environmental degradation and disasters since I was a teenager. Up until well into my thirties, all this drove me to feel overwhelmed by the sheer impossibility of saving the world, feeling guilty and small in the face of the effects.
I have only learned to acknowledge my impact in the world as something good when I turned my back on the world's do-gooders and catastrophic enthusiasts and took examples that love people and nature alike and do not reject themselves.
I find Walk the talk a very suitable term for it.
You are wrong when you think that only an environmentalist is the true keeper of the planet. Be one, but acknowledge what others do to help and not destroy.
How can I take you seriously if you refuse and your humanity? Then who am I talking to?
You think it has to hurt to make someone understand? Have you been reasonable as a child and are you now that I have provoked you and let you see my anger? What does it mean when I hit you?
You don't differ much from those who think you just have to shake people long enough to wake them up. They don't do that. They never did. Your shaking is merely an expression of your pain that sticks firmly to you and that you intend to share with others. By putting water on your mills and confirming how bad things are. Did such people stand by you in a crisis, were they strong and loving to you?
What do you think your isolation is?
Haven't you already reached people who are worth reaching? How many more must there be? How many to confirm and share the fierce pain with you? Where is it your responsibility to refrain from doing so?
Don't you have a long life and how do you look back on it?
I do not expect any response to all of this and I have no interest in being addressed indirectly. I asked you very direct personal questions and you answered me with generalities.
I am interested in you. That's all. Believe it or not.