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Why aren’t they running full nodes? Because that would cut into their profits.

Get me in the top-20 and I’ll run one public and one private. OR... I’ll host a Steem festival/convention in Vegas next year, with actual marketing to real companies that might find a use for this blockchain.

In other words - I’ll do what most of these leeches refuse to do or don’t know how to do. I’m just a nice guy like that.

@ats-david, thank you for your good suggestions.

If you let me know about your opinions on @SelfVoteJustice campaign,
I can support you as witness.

I am looking for witnesses to announce to support among my @SelfVoteJustice supporters who can accept SelfVote as Justice,
and also I am looking for witnesses to announce to drop among my @SelfVoteJustice supporters.

Please let me know your opinions.

this actually sounds fun, hey @idikuci @take5 @buttcoins can you consider putting this guy who looks like scorpion in mortal kombat on the witness vote list?

Sounds good to me. I love Vegas and I love Steem.

" I’ll host a Steem festival/convention in Vegas next year" Sounds like jerryfest

How dare you!

We won’t be performing auto-fellatio in front of a crowd of paid followers. And there’s a very good chance that I can get some rather important mainstream tech people there...people from a company such as Intel.

So, already way more potential than Jerry or SteemFest - and that’s barely trying.

@ats-david, thank you for your good suggestions.

If you let me know about your opinions on @SelfVoteJustice campaign,
I can support you as witness.

I am looking for witnesses to announce to support among my @SelfVoteJustice supporters who can accept SelfVote as Justice,
and also I am looking for witnesses to announce to drop among my @SelfVoteJustice supporters.

Please let me know your opinions.

I think you can use your votes however you want, including on yourself. I also think other people can use their votes however they want, including downvoting the posts you upvote. That’s how the system is designed.

And I think that it’s also OK to point out undesirable or potentially destructive behavior while understanding that everyone can use their stake however they want. That’s what being “social” means - that there may be consequences for our actions, based on the subjective opinions and values of other people in our community and with whom we interact.

It’s a complex and dynamic system.

So, sure...I support the concept of self-voting. It would be absurd to be opposed to it, since the entire platform is based on how much you are invested and based on using that stake to influence behavior/outcomes/rewards in this system.

Thank you very much for your kind and detail opinions, @ats-david.
I think that at least you are not against @SelfVoteJustice.
Actually what I understand Steem is mostly the same as what you said.
In addition, I think that we have to try to remove those who try to expel people from Steem, the Commie bamboo-spearing Red Guard, to keep the basic Right to Live and the basic Freedom of Speech/Write/Curation.
I will start to classify and announce witnesses whom to support and whom to drop, and whom to be neutral, with some time, as my @SelfVoteJustice campaign progresses.
Your quick and kind responses and your opinions are very helpful to me @SelfVoteJustice.
I will try to contact you again later as time goes and things progress.

Sorry but you @ats-witness are included in the Witness-to-drop list as follows :

Witness to drop:

@clayop, rank 10 at 2018.08.16.Thu,09:28(utc+9); previously I remember rank 8.
@asbear, rank 45 at 2018.08.16.Thu,09:28(utc+9)
@ats-witness , rank 57 at 2018.08.16.Thu,09:28(utc+9)

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@ats-witness=@ats-david is delegating the man-slaughtering voting guild @tipU.
@tipU delegation :
Delegator Amount Vesting Shares Delegation Time
ats-david(74) 44,034.615 SP 89.149 MVests 2018-08-07, 02:10

though @ats-david @ats-witness seemed to support @SelfVoteJustice at first
https://steemit.com/steem/@selfvotejustice/re-ats-david-re-selfvotejustice-re-ats-david-re-berniesanders-why-aren-t-more-of-the-top-witnesses-running-supporting-full-nodes-20180814t022932301z

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@SelfVoteJustice witness classification, whom to support, whom to drop. v.0.2 (2018.08.21)
( https://steemit.com/selfvotejustice/@selfvotejustice/selfvotejustice-witness-classification-whom-to-support-whom-to-drop-v-0-2-2018-08-21 )
2018.08.21.Tue.17:07 (utc+9), @SelfVoteJustice,

Thank you very much for your kind and detail opinions, @ats-david.
I think that at least you are not against @SelfVoteJustice.
Actually what I understand Steem is mostly the same as what you said.
In addition, I think that we have to try to remove those who try to expel people from Steem, the Commie bamboo-spearing Red Guard, to keep the basic Right to Live and the basic Freedom of Speech/Write/Curation.
I will start to classify and announce witnesses whom to support and whom to drop, and whom to be neutral, with some time, as my @SelfVoteJustice campaign progresses.
Your quick and kind responses and your opinions are very helpful to me @SelfVoteJustice.
I will try to contact you again later as time goes and things progress.

Sorry but you @ats-witness are included in the Witness-to-drop list as follows :

Witness to drop:

@clayop, rank 10 at 2018.08.16.Thu,09:28(utc+9); previously I remember rank 8.
@asbear, rank 45 at 2018.08.16.Thu,09:28(utc+9)
@ats-witness , rank 57 at 2018.08.16.Thu,09:28(utc+9)

--

@ats-witness=@ats-david is delegating the man-slaughtering voting guild @tipU.
@tipU delegation :
Delegator Amount Vesting Shares Delegation Time
ats-david(74) 44,034.615 SP 89.149 MVests 2018-08-07, 02:10

though @ats-david @ats-witness seemed to support @SelfVoteJustice at first
https://steemit.com/steem/@selfvotejustice/re-ats-david-re-selfvotejustice-re-ats-david-re-berniesanders-why-aren-t-more-of-the-top-witnesses-running-supporting-full-nodes-20180814t022932301z

==

@SelfVoteJustice witness classification, whom to support, whom to drop. v.0.2 (2018.08.21)
( https://steemit.com/selfvotejustice/@selfvotejustice/selfvotejustice-witness-classification-whom-to-support-whom-to-drop-v-0-2-2018-08-21 )
2018.08.21.Tue.17:07 (utc+9), @SelfVoteJustice,

Thank you very much for your kind and detail opinions, @ats-david.
I think that at least you are not against @SelfVoteJustice.
Actually what I understand Steem is mostly the same as what you said.
In addition, I think that we have to try to remove those who try to expel people from Steem, the Commie bamboo-spearing Red Guard, to keep the basic Right to Live and the basic Freedom of Speech/Write/Curation.
I will start to classify and announce witnesses whom to support and whom to drop, and whom to be neutral, with some time, as my @SelfVoteJustice campaign progresses.
Your quick and kind responses and your opinions are very helpful to me @SelfVoteJustice.
I will try to contact you again later as time goes and things progress.

Thank you very much for your kind and detail opinions, @ats-david.
I think that at least you are not against @SelfVoteJustice.

Actually what I understand Steem is mostly the same as what you said.
In addition, I think that we have to try to remove those who try to expel people from Steem, the Commie bamboo-spearing Red Guard, to keep the basic Right to Live and the basic Freedom of Speech/Write/Curation.

I will start to classify and announce witnesses whom to support and whom to drop, and whom to be neutral, with some time, as my @SelfVoteJustice campaign progresses.

Your quick and kind responses and your opinions are very helpful to me @SelfVoteJustice.

I will try to contact you again later as time goes and things progress.

You discussed in other comments that if you were one of the top 20 witnesses you would run/support a full node. I mean I am assuming that if you would earn more as a top 20 witness in rewards and as such woudln't it be beneficial for you in the long run to run a platform to be such?

So my question I guess is why don't yo run for top 20 witness with your platform starting with something like running a full node? I mean people might dislike you but anyone that runs any form of app or major service will happily vote for someone that offers more stability to the system.

Or is it rather you don't care about pushing yourself for it. I mean you (nextgencrypto) are at 41st position and have what, half the votes behind you (by power, you have 1400 votes and position 20 is about 5800 votes however you have a higher amount of MVests on average per voter)

I don't know, I guess I am just wondering why you don't actively pursue being one of the top witnesses when you spend (or at least spent) so much energy trying to make steemit better.

It is not possible for me to get the votes required to be in the top 20. Those whales would never consider voting for me regardless of how much I contribute, that's the unfortunate truth.

back when @z8teyb289qav9z was voting for me I really gave a shit about this place, but never got around to actually voting, can I vote for @nextgencrypto more than once?

Well as I said with position 20 having only around double the amount of MVests backing him but way more voters, what if your platform was in search of getting as many people to vote for you (not just the whales). I mean I know that a few whales with a few GV each is better than a couple hundred minnows with MVests, but minnows (1 MV to ~100 MV for my definition) and dolphins (101 MV to 500 MV) have tons of unrest in regards to many or all of the whales.

I mean if you got 4000 more votes for witness and using the sigma of steempower is ~1000 with a mean of ~100 (78 but rounded to nearest 100 for as its all an approximation, calculated on old data unfortunately) and giving an approximation of proportion would give you another ~7.5 GV in votes.

I will redo the calculations with current data to make sure it is correct... and even exclude anyone that has voted for you and anyone over a certain size if you want but idk. Maybe it wouldn't work and you are right but I like to be optimistic that us smaller folk could elect witnesses that will actually fight the good fight.

Imo, this is the tragedy (and mistake) of the current system(regime). I obviously don't know you personally, Mr. Sanders, but I've obviously seen you around. And whether or not I or anyone else has always "agreed" with your... techniques, That is ABSOLUTELY beside the point--in fact, it is PRECISELY the reason you should be a witness. Imo, someone who is willing to go against the grain and voice their opinion should be VALUED.

In other words, in "my vision" of a truly decentralized (or at least more so than this) system, the "witnesses" will be an eclectic, diverse group--and purposively so.. . Diversity, in other words, should be sought. It's a shame what has seemingly happened to Steem/ steemit.

But Who knows. The structure is here--it's quite possible some "angel" could see the potential--something perhaps we or I do not atm--swoop-down and fix it all up again.

I think I'll stick around for a bit :)

Not sure why my node is not on there:
appbasetest.timcliff.com

It is currently syncing though, as I am in the process of upgrading it to use RocksDB.

Thanks Tim, added above. Appreciate you running one!

I am not sure what a node exactly is and I am a little bit surprised that so many people know it.
I am not a programmer, developer, witness or something like that, just an ordinary, regular user.
I simply like to say thank you to the witnesses for their work!

FFS, you missed the point entirely.

Missed? Entirely?
I don't think so. Just because I am grateful? Being grateful is never bad.
Even if "We have a severe lack of full nodes and the ones that are available are getting slammed."
No matter how they are doing their work, I am still grateful for their work.
Have a nice evening and weekend!

What can I say? I have much to learn.
But I am still grateful towards the witnesses.

yo @xolosive...the point is they are not doing what they are supposed to do..run FULL nodes !!

As I understand the post, there ARE witnesses running full nodes, just not the sufficient amount of full nodes. Steemit should have more full nodes. My point is to be grateful towards the witnesses. Without them, Steemit would not be Steemit.

Short and easy version, a node is what runs the blockchain, full nodes run the entire blockchain.
They are like the engine of a car.

Thanks for this explanation! It is really short and easy.
I have read some sentences about the topic since writing my comment above and @pradeep.sidd68 wrote 5 hours ago that "Nodes that fully verify all of the rules of block chain are called full nodes...
Full nodes ensure the perfection and accountability of block chain transactions.. which not widely understood."

Thanks to both of your explanations, now I have a very basic, brief knowledge about what a node and a full node is.

What we also really need is a private full node service. Serious Steem-based sites and services should not be relying on public nodes and should easily be able to pay for access to a private one.

The appbase and jussi projects should make hosting full nodes much easier and much more stable, so i'm hoping that we see a lot more becoming available in the near future.

Not a bad idea. And, fingers crossed, but I'm not hopeful.

Lead by example!

If I were making enough via witness income to justify it, I would.

Then I guess that's the answer to your question in the title. There aren't many full nodes because people aren't making enough to justify the cost. The amount of RAM it takes to run a full node is exorbitant, it's a serious flaw in Steem (in my opinion). Instead of focusing on SMT's, they should be focusing on ways to reduce the RAM usage because the ram use it too damn high at the moment. Not to mention the space you need and you'll definitely want a SSD.

Thank you for this. And thank you bernie for pointing this out. Witness discussion/ "promotion" transparency/ data, should be on the top priority-list for steemit. It's kind of a strange paradox of "decentralization--" things can become very insular, making dissemination of information diffcult--all the while, a blockchain, by its very design--ensures some form of "solidarity" or uniformity "across all nodes" (as has been explained above--if I 'm understanidng correctly). This, imo, is the problem with DPOS. At least with EOS they kind of seemed to have some sort of "voting"/ procedure to determine block producers--although I could only imagine what a put-on all that could have been. Unfortunately, I'm not close enough to the tech to truly know. But I'm doing my best to learn.

thats because they

Nice one x)

I think since they're already on top, it's impossible for them to see the small fish. Like the politicians!

We are only a pain in the ass to them!

They get paid regardless. Why work and get paid when you can not work and get paid?

No one cares about Steemit or STEEM. It's all just trash money that's being printed out mostly for free to those get the most of it.

There's really no reason to care, or be anything but short-sighted.

Those at the top don't want the young ones to reach their levels, anyways the young shall grow someday... steemit is becoming discouraging and I think a measure should be taken to solve this😗

this so much