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RE: Introducing Viuly | Our VIU Token Pre-Sale is HAPPENING NOW for the NEXT 4 days | (Bounty Program info)
Please beware that this is not the real Viewly (https://view.ly/), but in all likelihood an impostor / scam.
I wouldn't necessarily consider it a scam just because the concepts are similar and the names are similar. If you have proof of scam or further information, please share it...
The Viuly project has been announced for quite some time....
From what I noticed, View.ly was announced after the Viuly announcement was made.
So, it really depends on which side you support.
Apple/microsoft/mac are very similar companies with similar objectives but are legitimate projects.
Just because it presents competition to the project you support, doesn't justify calling it a scam.
Your name sounds like Viewly.
You copied the structure from Viewly.
Your advisors are listed against their will. Some of them have sent you notices to remove them from your website.
You have paid shills creating fake impression of activity.
Not true. Viewly has been announced on July 13th. The wayback machine has a snapshot of view.ly from Aug. 24th. Yours does not exist.
You registered viuly.io/telegram on Sept 14th, and announced the ICO for 2 weeks later (originally targeting Oct 1st, changed to Oct 10th after we announced our sale would be in the first week of Oct).
According to the whois history, viuly.com domain changed registrant entity from Australian to Russian on Sept 13th. Bitcointalk thread Sept 20th.
Final Words
You have only "raised" $15,000. You would probably have had a better chance if you didn't try to be like Viewly, but ventured out with your own legitimate thing.
Hey Wait a minute!!
"You, Yours..."
Please don't refer to me in any way to be associated with this project.
I simply asked for proof before you go on a rampage scam accusation...
That is concerning and a big red flag that I am checking into right now.
Yup, that is more than obvious
Last words: Your probably right, but it's best to present evidence firsthand. In my first opinion, it seemed reasonable that users supporting view.ly would be upset of a competitor posting on Steemit, which as we all know, has shown great feedback for that project. But that is some pretty damning evidence to check into.
Once again: I'm not supporting Viuly.com and neither am I supporting View.ly so I'm completely biased in my opinions
I apologize for addressing you as part of the project. So far, the only responses we got were from the people affiliated with it.
Here is a response from the Viuly.com CEO
I'll try to answer with a shot message.
@furion is a liar!
Our lawyer on this issue now. View.ly and its founder members will answer for calling as a scam in the court.
Or you can just answer his seemingly legitimate claims above^
@officialfuzzy I am only responding because you commented.
What claim that the names are similar and that the concepts are similar? So is DTube, and I am sure plenty of other platforms. There are distinct differences however and when it's all said and done all video platforms will be decentralized. Ours provides more rewards to our community as a whole and our coin has a lower cost for entry = FACTS
At the end of the day, we are a legitimate company, with legitimate tech, providing a legitimate value proposition to our community, and @furion despite being a respected content creator and member of the steemit community also clearly has vested interest in the success of Viewly , which means his claims have malicious intent.
Regarding the website domain nonsense. That is just business, but out of respect for the steemit community and you I will provide clear and transparent insight into it once and for all. We have owned our domain and been working on our platform since 2014, but transferred our domain temporarily in September to an investor to oversee the ICO process. Once the ICO is over the domain ownership is transferred back to us.
Here is the proof
The fact that we even have to go this in-depth is both pathetic and I guess a testament to the steemit community's due diligence.
Can we leave it at that or do we have to address more lies? When they go low, we go high, but please don't doubt we have more proof of corrupt sleazy practices by Viewly and @furion trying to hurt our ICO (IT'S INSANE).
We rather let the tech talk, and it will.
You haven't addressed any of the concerns above, but are rather steering the narrative with pointless distractions and ad-hominem attacks.
For one, why did you name your project
Viulywhich sounds likeViewly?You show up out of nowhere, and somehow we should believe its just a coincidence that you:
@furion we now understand why you have been so adamantly attacking us. We were not aware that you were actually the creator of the viewly platform. The name issue was addressed above with documentation showing we have had our domain name since 2014 not in any way to be like your site (which didn't exist yet), but because English is not the only language in the world and for our initial target demographic "viu" instead of "view" was more adequate, case in point:
As for our relation to steemit, since the announcement, we have been working with our development team to see how smart media tokens could be integrated within our platform to provide even more value to users. This is why we decide to join the steemit community. However our main focus has always been to be a Patreon on the blockchain not a viewly.
An ICO "at the same time" would be on the same day, and our ICO is not running on the same exact day as yours. The final factor is there is enough space in this market for plenty of similar projects, but in no way is our platform exactly similar to yours...JUST TRY OUR ALPHA.
Finally, as you are a content creator, and seem to love trolling the fuck out of us, we invite you to host your content on our platform since you are already familiar with its structure. We think you would adapt to it nicely.
Best Regards,
Your Friends at the Viuly Team
P.S.
Perhaps this Medium Article would put some of your concerns at ease.
Also please don't be afraid to join our Telegram Community. Our fast growing group of loyal fans and investors would love to hear what you have to say.
If Furion was indeed the creator . . . would you care to show proof of this? This is a pretty strange revelation if it were true . .
I decided not to invest Viuly after reading @furion's comments. I will wait until what happens in court. Please LMK so that I can invest later.
Thank you for clarifying it.
Hello @furion
DON'T YOU MEAN VIEWLY IS NOT THE REAL VIULY?
From the very beginning, all of our competitors tried to accuse us of being their clone. We didn't react at all and did not allow ourselves to attack competitors in their threads on the bitcointalk forum, in chat rooms, etc. But this case has gone beyond all the limits of decency and we will answer.
We can not be someone's clone for several reasons:
our domain name Viuly.com has belonged to us since 2014. It was not bought a few months ago.
We have been working on our project for over 7 months and our fully working alpha will be released in the next few days.
We discovered the whitepapers of all our competitors so brazenly attacking us, and found nothing in common, except for using IPFS protocol for file storage. But I want to note that to date, all projects related to the storage of files, use IPFS protocol, since this is the only real and working solution in the blockchain industry. So it is logical that our project uses IPFS protocol for the video file storage.
As for accusing us of cloning, what did we clone? We have a completely different concept and logic behind the project:
a) We pay our users for viewing the video
b) Advertisers have the opportunity to add their ads and pay VIU tokens to the video authors and users directly, without intermediaries.
c) We give our content creators 4 streams of income: advertising revenue sharing, sales of their premium content, subscriptions to their paid channels and receiving tips.
None of the above is available online on any other platform to date. Absolutely all competitors try to solve just one problem, while we approach the issue in a comprehensive manner and solve all the existing problems of centralized video platforms.
Contact us directly through telegram if you would like to have a more in depth conversation with us.
@viuly - I had just bought into the view.ly pre-ICO token sale after seeing a Steemit post about it. I love YouTube, Steemit, Quora and Ethereum as well as the overall concept of decentralization and cryptocurrency.
I then stumbled across the Viuly ICO sale and was very confused. I then read some of some of the comments from people 'trashing' your ICO sale and others speculating about 'this scam' or 'that scam' and then I had stumbled across this thread.
I am now under the belief that both platforms are essentially decentralized video sharing platforms and they are both real. The token sale dates were within 1 week of each other but neither of them are scams.
I appreciate your level of professionalism in handling the above mentioned scuffle and may want to invest in Viuly as well as View.ly which I have already invested in.
I understand that if I ask someone directly affiliated with View.ly, I will probably get an unpleasant response based on the demeanor of their representatives. Besides a more aesthetically pleasing alpha product and a seemingly more professional staff- can you please tell me what makes Viuly different (or in your opinion, better) than View.ly?
I'm really curious now after having read the back and fourth above.