Was the burning of notre dame an Arson?steemCreated with Sketch.

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Notre Dame is burning about a week before Easter, and the official narrative is that it may have been due to renovations. Like most person concerned about the islamification of Europe I was a bit skeptical. I am not going to jump to any conclusions, that would be bad. However just a few weeks ago, these were some of the news stories in France and churches. It supports a theory that the church may have been targeted, but it doesn't prove it was arson. And supposing it was Arson, it does not mean Muslims were behind it. Though I doubt very much that domestic atheist or feminist were behind it, I would tend to think they would support domestic architectural marvels that brings wealth [through tourism, etc] into the nation.

from March 22nd, 2019

Catholic churches in France are being targeted with arson attacks, vandalism, desecration of holy statues, and the destruction of the Eucharist. The attacks have been happening since the start of the year.

-https://www.rt.com/news/454472-arson-vandal-french-catholic-church/

France has seen a spate of attacks against Catholic churches since the start of the year, vandalism that has included arson and desecration....Ellen Fantini, told Newsweek that while in many cases the motive for the attacks was not known, France faced growing problems with anti-Christian violence, especially by anarchist and feminist groups.
-https://www.newsweek.com/spate-attacks-catholic-churches-france-sees-altars-desecrated-christ-statue-1370800

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Hey there, thanks for the great references, it seems like arson against the Catholics or perhaps Christianity in general.

It is still early to tell, but I think that is a gut feeling for many.

I am surprised about a lack of early cellphone videos (well, I haven't searched for that), and a lack of webcams that live stream important places. Also a lack of security cam footage.

Maybe as warrants are issued we will learn more, or maybe they will be kept secret. Possibly google [and apple] might know something, but I doubt they will volunteer anything about who all was in the area; a court order might force them too.

reportedly between 2010 and 2014 (it isn't clear if this is us or world numbers), there were about 8400 fires a year on buildings undergoing construction, renovations, or demolition.

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=75be1f0b-0f7d-45ed-b3f1-44521d944012

It's been a a few years since I watched fox news. I read a news story about how Shepard Smith cut off a caller who entered an idea, based upon recent events, that differed from the official narrative. Pathetic how Fox News is acting all msm deep state now. Seems like all Fox, under Smith's watch, will do is report with a confirmation bias in favor of the government-for which there is not real confirmation yet, just speculation of officials.

I get it, you don't want people to react upon their gut instinct so you report in what you think is the least harmful way, even if it is completely false. We seen that too many times, especially in the European media where...France happens to be. They feel it is their duty to babysit and guide our perceptions and hide reality from us. But each time they are wrong because they dismissed an alternative hypothesis and ignored the documented issues supporting it, the people aren't blind to the fact they are being lied too and loses trust in the media. Why not support a spectrum of palpable ideas? perhaps because fox isn't fair and balanced.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/15/shep-smith-france-notre-dame-cathedral-fire/

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There was also a hammer attack in 2017 by an alleged ISIS doctoral student against a cop. Also a knifing leaving two people dead by a mentally ill man who spoke of terrorism in 2018.

-https://www.npr.org/2018/08/23/641152018/2-killed-in-knife-attack-outside-paris
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/notre-dame-shooting-paris-police-confirm-incident-warn-public-to-stay-away/

The official response is to treat the fire today as an accident [ruling out arson and terrorism] for now. The additional words "for now" used my many news agencies is interesting choice of words. At best, it means they haven't ruled out arson, and terrorism completely. But the french prosecutors office specifically said there was no arson and no terrorism.
So where did the words "for now" come from, and what does it mean. One could construe those words ("for now") for virtually any theory, which is worrisome. For example, one possible theory could be do they know it was an arson, but it isn't politically convenient to say that given the people are already in the streets protesting the macron government. But...there was no arson according to the prosecutor. The "for now" thus is rather cryptic.
Conspiracy theories brew the most when the people have no reason to believe the government and the news media. But this places more pressure on these agencies to give answers. And surely the "for now" could be an invitation down the rabbit hole.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/15/notre-dame-arson-terrorism-ruled-out-now-paris-pro/

I suppose the biggest reason for doubt of at least arson is the lack of anyone claiming responsibility.

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drudgereport unveils old stories from 2016 about an Islamic plot to attack notre dame.

The probable attack was uncovered in Paris on Sunday morning, at about 7 a.m., but the average citizen did not hear about it until Wednesday when French news outlets reported it as the confiscation of a car filled with seven propane tanks on a street near Notre Dame cathedral.
-https://www.thedailybeast.com/an-isis-plot-to-blow-up-notre-dame-cathedraland-rule-the-world
-Michael Weiss 09.08.16 1:00 AM ET

as to the ruling our arson and terrorism, newsweek reports the following:

investigators said they were working on the assumption that the fire was started “involuntarily,” ruling out a criminal motive for the blaze or arson.... The extent of the destruction, especially in this hard-to-reach area surrounded by scaffolding, was so great that material evidence showing the cause of the fire will not be easy to come by—and may already have been destroyed.

https://www.newsweek.com/what-caused-notre-dame-fire-inquiry-calls-blaze-accident-rules-out-arson-1397598

So they don't have evidence that it was an accident either. The official claim of an accident is assumption, just as the people are left to have other assumptions. The forensic evidence may be destroyed. They are choosing a theory of the perceived least harm even though they, like the rest of us, don't really know what happened. The people want and look for answers. What happened to journalism; it's basically has become like a cult to a divine king (a spectrum of socialist ideals). Instead of protecting us from government, it seeks to sacrifice us to appease their king.

It is perhaps as Glenn beck allegedly argued, if it was Muslim extremists we may never know. Just got done reading a liberal hit piece against him, https://splinternews.com/glenn-beck-is-spouting-insane-dangerous-bullshit-about-1834068103 . At least they admit [imply] it would be a dangerous reality if that were the case. But supposing that dangerous reality were the case, why hide the population from the Danger we are presently in. It doesn't make us safer, it makes us less prepared for the invasion already in progress. How did the city of Rome fall to the German People? Reportedly the Germans gave the Romans 300 of their best youth warriors as obedient slaves, and at night the youths joined together and killed the guards and opened the gates letting the German invaders in where on some accounts then burned and killed everyone [in accounts sparing the christians]. A democracy basically is nothing more than rule by factions with a constitution as a safeguard, a conviction in court can be prevented by just one person...just a small percent of the people can mean a whole group of people can act lawlessly. Kind of like how some governments are refusing to prosecute immigrants who are rapists. Democracies could very well turn to sharia-at least that's better than feminism.

A contributing editor for Time magazine posted yesterday that his jesuit friend said the fire was not accident. It was picked up by infowars, and infowars is being labeled fox news. Such hit piece refuse to show the original tweet. It is convenient to just target infowars, because people already have their impression of that site. https://www.infowars.com/notre-dame-cathedral-in-paris-on-fire-worker-claims-it-was-deliberately-started/

see also.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/16/tech/conspiracy-theories-notre-dame-cathedral-fire/index.html


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Supposing it was Muslims. An Alex Jones clone account got deleted from from predicting attacks during the week of Easter.

from March 19th, 2019

The video, which was viewed more than 5,000 times, promoted blatant Islamophobia, as Jones implied Muslims celebrate Easter by committing acts of terrorism and he predicted violence would be seen on this year’s holiday.

-huffington post, YouTube Terminates Account Hosting Alex Jones’ Infowars Content After Ban