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RE: What’s Really Happening on Steem?
Well, you are not the one acting as a good example, are you?!
Of course, it's easy to reply to comments on your own post.
But do you also look beyond your own bubble? Do you read what others write, engage with it? Or is it just “WoX auto-vote trail” and done?
If I’m being unfair, I apologize - but this is exactly how it appears to users who take the time to ask: “Who actually is Xpilar?”
You do know you're a role model for many, right? Yes, you do.
I assume that in Norway - a nation steeped in fishing traditions - you have a similar saying to the one we use in Northern Germany (also a fishing stronghold): “The fish rots from the head down.”
If you mean commenting, I agree that I'm not a good example of that. Yes, I also read other people's posts, I wish I had even more time for that. That's one of the reasons why a few years ago we brought in moderators to give comments.
It worked for a while, but I understand that moderators can also get bored. I'm primarily an investor and founder, not a blogger. And have contributed to a number of competitions over the time for steemians to be active.
Everything from writing competitions to lotteries and many other things that contribute to the community. You ask the question "Or is it just “WoX auto-vote trail” and done?" then I'd say you don't know me at all.
maybe @stef1 will comment on that.
My post is meant to debate which way Steem is going and I would like you to talk a little about that too. Maybe you can tell a little about your own community and why it works so well, so that others can learn from
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Dear @xpilar,
Your moderators do not comment. I have been here so many times, reading and checking, but not one of them ever comments only stef1 at certain times and not even in this community.
All the art you had and there is, is ignored, not a single word given to push in the right direction. What I noticed and made me uncomfortable back then is that it feels like a very small clique, only caring about themselves and how to make a big income.
I agree with you that it's a hell of a job to read and comment since I am the main person doing this in different communities and indeed my comments are getting shorter, but my hands are tight too and I do NOT get paid, am NOT making an income on Steemit unlike many others with very high rewards never taking the time to say a word.
I also noticed that many of those high-ranked never write and have their "workers" do the job (that job that isn't done, sounds as if they take the profit and if they were motivated at all they are no longer).
I truly wonder how come it's that hard to write 3 comments per day...
If your moderators are too busy with (with what exactly other jobs at different communities?), it might be a good idea to clean up, remove the moderators or replace them. There's no point in having moderators if they don't give a damn about what is posted.
BTW: I tried it with the freewriters, but as soon as they could make a big income, the interest is gone and they only hop by to promote one of the games hosted here. Sorry, but that is not what my communities are meant for.
I doubt a solution can be found for the lack of interest and comments, but it might be good to stick the heads together and clean up. Why pay if a job isn't done or what is done doesn't have the wanted result?
@solperez @abdullahw2
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Yes, I mean commenting - just commenting (which is actually the first question in your article).
No, we’ve rarely had personal contact. But of course I know you, especially from way back. Naturally, I’m also aware of all the things you’ve done and developed for Steem. You don’t have to keep pointing that out. Plus, you already have enough users constantly highlighting that for you.
Well, I too have invested a lot of money in Steem. However, I was never interested in a big ROI. Until the end, I held on to the idealistic (or rather foolish, foolish, foolish?) notion of using my relatively large stake to support the posts that I genuinely liked, or where someone clearly put in effort. Not to mention all the “educational” attempts to explain to users why it’s important to build their own stake and use it to give back to the community.
I won’t discuss the pros and cons of all the “modern” innovations with you. That’s been done a thousand times, and I’m tired. So very tired.
Just this much: Every bit of automation kills creativity. Some - even among your formerly very creative and communicative moderators - have no hesitation in settling down the moment they’ve secured their catch (ha, another fitting fish metaphor).
To comment “properly,” you first have to find a post that actually interests you, that makes you want to engage, that inspires a response. Posts like that still sporadically exist. But how long do you expect an interested reader to search through all the fast-fire content, spam, scams, and blah blah blah? No chance. The audience you're trying to reach is no longer here.
When I referred to the “smelly fish,” I didn’t mean you personally but rather all the “influencers.” How are users supposed to learn how Steem originally worked if all those who still remember act completely differently now?
As a teacher, I can tell you: the only thing that works is “show, then follow.” Unfortunately, this applies to everything influencers demonstrate (or don’t).
Have a lovely Sunday!
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Thank you, dear friend, for your tiredless attempt to revive the spirit of people on Steemit, to tell the truth I am slowly loosing my faith, especially seeing that even Tron nowadays overtaken Steem and if before it was very little value now it is double so much than Steem. It is difficult to imagine that it is one and the same person who owns both Steem and Tron and who cares more about one but less about the other. I run out of ideas what is behind the whole buy of Steemit for Justin. Every time when I see that Steem goes down when the other Crypto have a tendency to go up, I just stop looking at the trend because I am afraid to find that Steem drop even further down bellow 0,10
In my eyes, the problem is marketing and it is always a case. There should be people who invest and stake without "hurting" themselves financially. I am aware that the majority of people here are from countries where they rely at least on Steem in order to have some financial backup and those people will be always withdrawing Steem.
When I look around I see many who got reasonable Steem Power due to their activities in Steemit challenges and comments but then withdrew it either compleltely or partially, then stop activities but return because this is only income they have.
You also, mentioned long term investors, yes, they grow their Steem Power so only do that and stake it, some withdrew some Steem for expences and it is their right. Those users who hold a big stakes they still help to maintain the Price of Steem, because if we imagine that one day they all decide to Power Down and sell Steem that will be the end of Steem. Therefore, those who still keep SP should be considered as good for the environment of Steem community. Those people they are here for financial interest and not for blogging.
The communities will not exist long if there is no support, have you noticed that since Steemit withdrew Booming support from communities many communities are slowly stopping their activities. That is a reality.
On other hand just remember how it was in the past, there was no Upvote guarantee, there is no "Steemit Team" like "big daddy" who were supporting people for their activities and people were learning to survive themselves and that was the time when people were active.
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This!
Active and creative...
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They also return because it's highly rewarded. I know who wouldn't powerdown because they don't needed and who also give their Steem away. I am one of them but if I see that farmers are highly rewarded, those who abused Steemit and powered down communities are rewarded again by SCs it makes me sick to the bone.
Right now I don't feel very motivated to buy Steem, especially not because it's not easy to do so with all the restrictions.
Next to that I see people only 2 years around or less and they are way higher on the ladder and wrote by far not as much, nor commented that much as I did. What counts for me also counts for others who stick around and see how this is played.
Years ago, we tried to promote Steemit as a platform for bloggers, but all I see is people who should be "lured" in like @sbamsoneu remarked, to drain the platform and those who worked hard more and more.
I do agree with you that "big daddy" didn't exist back then for everyone (to a handful he did) and people found way to interact, connect.
The fact that this no longer happens is due to the policy of those (communities) promoting the wrong messages and dragging entire families over here.
Written by @stef1:
Dear @chriddi, Iunderstand what you mean with saying that people should look what they do themselves, that is right. The same time I understand the goal of the post of @xpilar, he always strived to create an environment where people feel not alone. It is true that our community was more active from point of view of comments from moderators and I remember many including myself spending hours on daily basis searching users, writing replies, giving some hints where I could.
If to look for the reasons what has been changed I will speak only for myself:
it is 8 years since we joint and if initially we motivated to be active and do everything to be rewarded because of high Steem price and that time our little Steem Power, where we were trying to do everything to be seen slowly but surely that dream faded off. Now we have collected out SP but despite of what is happening now on Steem from Investors or Development it does not make Steem price to go up.
as @xpilar mentioned, he is a long term investor who is supporting Steemians and their projects, he is giving Upvotes, he is running competitions since he joined and giving away Steem as Prizes but also he is running still WOX-helpfund and giving away Steem to the users who need. The same like him, we were running @art-venture for few years and give aways Steem as prizes too. It is sad that users often decide to withdraw steem instead of to grow SP
the other reason, my professional field of work, that now I have more clinical activities and responsibilities that take majority of my time and my commitment. That is now my priority and I even at home I have to work on some staff.
I can only say that in this case "the head of a fish" is the most lively and fresh and trying to do its best to encourage people around :)
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Well then, everything’s just fine — since we all seem to understand each other’s intentions… 😉
Oh Karly, how many hours have we spent over the years discussing all these points? And honestly, you don’t need to keep emphasizing what you or Xpilar have done for Steem. You’re speaking about the past - and so am I, because I’m simply tired now too.
Everyone has their personal reasons for doing what they do, or for stopping. That’s normal, we all change and evolve. Whether someone else approves of that evolution really doesn’t matter - and I mean that completely without judgment.
Just one more thing: The fish metaphor wasn’t aimed solely at Xpilar. It applies to all “influencers.” And yes, I include both you and myself in that category (and especially those that almost everyone follows like some kind of salvation: the Steemit Team). I just elaborated on it a bit more when addressing Xpilar.
Have a lovely Sunday,
Christiane
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Hi @chriddi, please find my comment under that I wrote from @wuddi, you might remember that this is an account to collect Steem to help out to pay for Student loan for my niece. Thanks,
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The WOX account is there to pay for your niece?
Hi, WOX has nothing to do with my niece and @wuddi this is an account that is collecting steem for my niece