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RE: The individual at war and a short reflection on OODA loops. (Letters 7.2)
My adrenaline center pours a lot while reading this. So, I decided not to answer. But as I cannot be fully silent, I hereby declare to apologize you for having been victim of targeted propaganda. If I wouldn't I were not able to debate with you anymore.
No, I'm nor kidding nor doing some sarcasm at this moment.
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I expected or 'knew' you will be able handle this.
2nd, PS: You would need to clarify what got your juices running, so I can further explain what I mean.
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Yip.
Thanx.
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Due to some illness factors not possible at this time.
Please hold the line.
Sure. Get well soon. :)))
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Your question concerning 'q-bits' reached me via @Weisser-Rabe.
I will have to look on this before answering.
Have I been? I really don't think so, as it results from my own experiences and has deep consequences on the debate about the reach, form and funcioning of each one's sphere of consciousness (soul/prana/morphogenetic field, etc...)
As you cannot fully translate art. I also can not fully translate the extreme states of being I described here.
And... I am not kidding, either.
Plus... I don't believe your adrenaline to be running in any meaningful way.
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I think you are just upset at disagreeing. That is in no way comparable to facing a life threatening situation. Did you ever bungee jump? Been in a car accident? Still does not quite reeach the full experience of the conscience that being alive in the next instant depends on what you do next.
That is an eligible [hope I got the right word] question.
If I would have been victim of some propaganda - and I'm sure I've been several times - how could I detect this and escape from it?
I can imagine that all my life or especially my encounter with epistemology be some type of propaganda. There will be no proofs of this and no proofs of the contrary - as there is no proof to decide if we live within a 'matrix'.
Surely right! Both.
I deny that there is such a thing beyond the emotion it would be so. At least it isn't for all people the same experience.
But be it so or so -- that was not the point in my adrenaline statement.
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Obviously, the experience is different from individual to individual. Even with the introduction of chemical enhancers that constitute an effort to get everybody into that same mindset, it does not work for everybody in the same way.
I assert that it is so in such a strong perceivable way, that you get addicted to it.
PS: I'm not being a biological mechanicist. I'm pointing to a mechanism that, somehow detaches our perception from our physical bodies while under extreme perceived danger and I reafirm that the ability to still take good decisions is fundamental.
Sorry, I still can't follow. Or maybe I should better say: I won't follow.
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I also will not proceed with this conversation as I cannot detatch from my own interpretation of what I have experienced and, also, this discussion brings me back to 'mind' places where I do not want to be and that I don't want to dwelve into and talk about. So, I would propose we end this line of debate, which will not be productive and follow on to other matters.
Experiences are the one side, interpretations of experiences AS something the other side.
We do not have any need to go on with this issue, but I think, we could take an abstract or distanced look (anywhen) to propaganda and ideology - since these are philosophical issues besides our concrete experiences and their interpreations AS something.
I like to extrapolate my experiences, as they are not unique and others have reported the same. Departing from the particular to the general always seems to me a meaningful way to approach a subject. I cannot, however, share most of it due to some nda's and, what I could, leaves me uneasy to even think about.
Maybe I'll find a way to discuss this in a conceptual manner in a later date. Time will be needed for that.
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Yup.
At this point some remark on 'chief q-bits' (I do not want to disrespect him, the formula deserves only a little 'encryptioning'):
As far as I know is he in a similar way experienced and injured. Maybe even traumatised.
Thus I do not oppose his 'surface madnesses'.
I try to filter out the parts which 'carry meaning' (in my regard and perception).
I may have gotten carried away by some trigger that I should have switched off along time ago. Sorry for the slip.
Let's proceed with stuff we can usefully discuss.