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I Have been Receiving Flags for No Reason - User @Noganoo is trying to Censor me and is a Flaggot

Go Look at my blog posts and notice because I disagreed with a certain individual, that I have received a bunch of random flags with no explanation, and no legit reason. This is tantamount to censorship. I joined steemit to get to an open platform that people respected and did not misuse their flags. If this is how it is going to be on here, then this platform will fail like every other platform. If douche bags can just flag for no reason, they will whenever their feelings are hurt. I have yet to flag anyone yet who hasn't violated the terms of service agreements. Flagging for differences of opinion is so pathetic and childish it is embarrassing.

This also highly indicates that a certain user @noganoo on Steemit is using bots to flag my account multiple times. I was going to get into a flag war, but honestly I don't believe in censorship. Unlike this faggot who is using sock puppet accounts to flag my blog. No one flagged any of my articles till this flaggot got mad that I made fun of Alex Jones. Too damn bad it's called Freedom of Speech, obviously something @noganoo doesn't believe in.

I would suggest anyone who values freedom of Speech and keeping this platform open not support flagging people for no legit reason. Differences of opinion don't equal a flag.

Seriously, does anyone think this is right to do? I think Freedom of Speech should be honored and flags should not be used in the manner that this douchebag is using them.

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same thing, some dude called nippel66 flagged my photos for no reason

i got flagged today by bullionstacker after they advertised their hashtag whalepower for anyone to use. i still don't know why i got flagged. i dont think its fair for others to become bullies because they have more influence on the site. Like seriously
https://steemit.com/steem/@leggy23/poloniex-issue-resolves
can anyone tell me what is wrong with my post?

I am so sorry that you are going through this Titusfrost.
I have been flagged a few times for no valid reasons.
In some people's minds I am "dangerous" because I question what they believe is unquestionable and they want to punish me.
I haven't even ever been rude to people or swore at them -- I go above and beyond to be reasonable and polite even when they start the attack -- but for some people nothing works.
Thankfully those people eventually moved on and did not continue to flag more than a few posts.
I am sad to see that Noganoo keeps flagging each and every new post that you do and can't seem to get that offense he feels out of his system.
PLEASE, keep posting your articles here on Steemit.
So far, the flags have never been enough to block out your posts. I don't think they are affecting your financial rewards too greatly (although I haven't looked too closely.)
I have wanted to quit Steemit at times, especially after one seemingly well-respected Steem account said that he wished my children would die -- but I took a break and then jumped back in, and fortunately my attackers moved on for the most part.
I imagine that Noganoo will move on too. As you can see, I requested him to stop and I hope that he listens. I have often voted for him and he usually votes for me ... but I had to speak out as some of us must try to help moderate situations like these.

I have removed the flags as you have requested, @Canadian-Coconut. The flags that remain are not my accounts. Thank you for de-escalating the situation. Though I feel strongly that this man may be a paid shill for the elitists I should state that in his comments rather than flag. I also apologize to @TitusFrost for the not dealing with this situation in a more gentle manner as he requires a safe space for his blog. His proof for Infowars being fake-news was a sticker on a man's hat. If you call this spreading Truth and not division then I am astounded. This being said his language is extremely NSFW and should in the future be tagged as such. @TitusFrost please stop claiming to be a Christian when your everyday actions are clearly not. Also @Canadian-Coconut, comparing the unfair flagging of your articles to my flagging of this verbal terrorist is entirely irrelevant.

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"No one flagged any of my articles till this flaggot got mad that I made fun of Alex Jones. Too damn bad it's called Freedom of Speech, obviously something @noganoo doesn't believe in."

Your true colors have come out, @TitusFrost.

Eh. I could do without the "flaggot" being used as well. I saw someone doing it the other day and even as much as I hate it when people flag me or anyone else that's not abusing a law, the platform or another person, I still cringe when I see someone using it.

Not only does it, in my mind, make the person appear to be a little immature, but it also has other connotations that may also reflect poorly upon the person using the term simply to describe a flag from someone.

Hey, I get it. I have a really odd sense of humor, however anyone using that term on Steemit has pretty much lost a few notches of credibility from me personally. I just see it as cheap and uncreative and usually done to elicit a negative response and start even more flagging.

There are better ways to handle it. Like ... making a comic about them. ='b

I too found this a bit overboard for my taste. However, see my crazy ass reply below above. ;)

I don't understand why noganoo behaves the way she or he does. This is where the reputation system fails us somewhat. I can appreciate how frustrating it is to be targeted by misguided judgement and spite. I'll try to upvote you when I catch your posts to help redress the balance somewhat. I don't use bots atm so bear with me :)

I flag anyone who acts like a child and curses and my fellow Steemit users. Thanks for asking.

Noganoo -- I went back and looked at some of this flagging/comment history.
You seem to have started the "childish" behaviour as you call it, by flagging his article about Alex Jones for "stirring" the pot.
Stirring the pot should NEVER be a reason to flag an entire post.
Yes, titusfrost responded badly, I imagine because you attacked him in the first place (by the flag) in such an unjustified way. Both of your behaviours continued to worsen.
It may be justified to flag the individual comments where he is cursing you out and calling you names. But to flag entire posts, and to flag completely new unrelated posts is very uncalled for in my opinion.
You want titusfrost to grow up, but why not try growing up first yourself.

I talk about very controversial subjects here on Steemit myself, and I know that you usually vote for me (thanks). I know how badly it makes me feel when people have flagged my articles simply because they disagree with me questioning what they believe is "unquestionable", so they want to punish me by flagging me.

Please let titusfrost continue to post on Steemit free of your harassment.
If you don't harass him, I doubt that he will seek you out to harass you.

Exactly, I still have not flagged this kid. Check the Facts. He got upset because I called out Alex Jones. He addressed none of my criticisms, and started with ad hominem tactics to justify his bullshit.

Sorry but swearing is also not a reason for flagging, it's called freedom of expression. Can't handle tough words, don't come onto my blog.

Swearing directly at someone is different than using swearwords in your article -- in real life I walk away or hangup the phone, etc if someone starts swearing directly at me. Having said that, I do not think that would usually justify a flag on Steemit, and I have only flagged a comment from Kyriacos when he said that he wanted my children to die (because I don't vaccinate them) and a clear spammer who was putting the same spam post on my articles and others over and over. I let everything else slide .. no matter how much it rubs me the wrong way.

I didn't mean that noganoo should flag you for swearing at him, but I would understand that and not judge him harshly for it, however what he has been doing flagging each subsequent, unrelated article that you write is absolutely an ABUSE of what the flag is meant for.

Who are you to judge who is acting the child? Who are you to break the consensus we are trying to reach as a community about the appropriate use of flags? I don't necessarily think every post by titusfrost is great or factually accurate but he should be allowed to say what he likes without harrassement. If no-one on Steemit is interested, then naturally, he'll be ignored and will eventually go away. If steemians are too stupid or preoccupied or labouring under too much misinformation to decide that for themselves, this process will take a bit longer as better information reaches more people. Your combative, agressive tactics to assert your....from what I can see...arbitrary judgement are counterproductive. Just relax. Focus on nurturing what you like about Steemit and either ignore the rest or help to arrive at a compromise like the NSFW tag. Please. You could do so much to help Steemit rather than fight these pointless and self-destructive battles.

noganoo -- I just looked at Steemdb and see that you only 14 hours ago placed all these flags on a host of posts. Therefore there is time to undo them before the payouts kick in and they are undoable.
This has created too much drama.
Please do the right thing and remove your flags, so that we can all quit talking about this!
You have made your point already. You don't have to like him. You don't have to agree with him.

You have presumably read many of my posts that you have voted on ... so you know that I always stand up to the bully. Unfortunately this time you are the one being the bully. Hopefully you are just having a bad day and not thinking as reasonably as you normally do. We all can have our irrational moments -- we are only human.

Please undo the flags, mute titusfrost and walk away.

Nog, re-consider removing flag to @benjojo. Thank you.

I will continue to flag you so long as you keep dividing the Steemit community and cursing at my fellow Steemians and I while we are addressing lies found in your videos. I have taken dozens of screenshots of comments from your videos from people who agree with me on this. @JamesC please do some research on this man @titusfrost before continuing to upvote him. Thank you.

This is the type of stuff why I am flagging you.

"If this is how it is going to be on here, then this platform will fail like every other platform."

Steemit will fail because I flagged your post. Finally you make some sense!

You are the only one I am cursing at and it is for 100% valid reasons. If you can't handle criticism go bury your head in sand.

I don't know the whole story but I feel like we should always try to deescalate bad situation. It is difficult sometimes.

We need a mechanism to counteract unfair flagging

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What's extra sad though, is when those of us trying to tell the truth, start attacking each other.
Noganoo has voted for many of my "truth" posts, and I have voted for him.
But then when titusfrost and noganoo have one area of disagreement, even though they probably agree on a lot, it all falls apart and everyone keeps causing offense and getting offended.
I made some comments here to moderate, and I hope that they can both work it out.

@canadian-coconut sorry, but I am not going to tolerate censorship. This kid isn't a truther if he is employing censorship because he can't handle criticism. I have not flagged one thing of his, he has flagged countless unrelated articles of mine and used sock puppet accounts to increase the flag number. He is clearly violating steemit terms of service.

Absolutely, do not tolerate censorship on speaking your mind and sharing what your research has discovered!
I am with you on this titusfrost.
But realize that noganoo does not speak for Steemit. Steemit is still in Beta stage, and they continue to figure things out and work out glitches. Don't give up yet. It is a growing and learning curve for Steemit. You have enough people supporting you here that your message is not being censored or unavailable to the viewers.

I have seen this type of behavior before though. Just recently on an anti-vaccine group I was told by another member that "my heart was black" because I promoted the "VaxXed" movie, because at the ending just before the credits there is a list of demands and one is to make the 3 individual measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines available again (so that people have a choice since the MMR is extra dangerous.)
So basically, I wasn't anti-vax enough for her. Unless one subscribed to her approach 100% they were killing kids, and she said I was killing kids by promoting a film that in realty was only about fraud at the CDC related to the MMR Vaccine, and is not an anti-vax movie but an anti-fraud movie.
That was extra hard for me to take, because I figured we were on the same side.

My point is, that for SOME PEOPLE, you can agree on 99% of the issues, but the 1% that you disagree on makes you an enemy to them.
I'm not sure what % of the issues noganoo agrees with you on -- maybe it's only 50% or maybe it's 99% -- but it is extra sad to me when a 1% difference is enough to make someone that should be an ally into your enemy.

Thanks for the support gizmosia! I appreciate it.

I used to flag but with explanations. Normally, when people put 'steem' or 'steemit' when the post isn't meta at all. I don't bother doing this, now. Since the tag limit has been implemented, I have not seen any posts that are really off topic.

Now, I have been flagged also without explaination. It happened when I was reporting technical problems. It's rather bothersome to me. The flag makes people are less likely to come and help me. For those who have a chance to make $200 from a post it must be even worse.

What's to stop say Alefantis from paying or even funding a minnow to flag you until only your followers see you? I'll continue reading your stuff. If you can recommend others that I should follow, I will add them as well.

The bad news is, the haters are going to hate.

Flagging completely unrelated posts that are in regards to exposing pedophiles that are operating in plain sight on youtube. Trying to censor that information because you are mad I don't like Alex Jones.

That is some of the biggest bullshit I have ever encountered in my life. I am making a video to document this and I will be publishing it on youtube with everyone of you that has been flagging me along with this kid. Hope you enjoy being youtube famous for being absolute thin skinned douchebags.

I just looked at Steemdb to see what happened with the other 8 flaggers.
All flags occured at the very same time.
I closely checked out 3 of the 8, and they are all real people/bloggers.
They also all have very low voting power, meaning that they are voting on lots and lots of posts.
My conclusion is that they have set up a bot to follow noganoo for some reason. (maybe he earns good curation rewards)
... and they have no idea that noganoo has flagged you.
I then checked my last post that noganoo voted on too, and all the same 8 people voted on my post at the same moment. Funny thing is that one of them is a pediatrician who would probably be appaled that his vote went to "anti-vax" articles ... ha ha
So if you are going to do a Youtube rant about this flagging, don't call out the other accounts.

I have likely set myself up to lose 9 votes now on future posts ... sigh ... but doing the right thing is always worth it.

You are not losing my vote, @Canadian-Coconut. We need to unite as a community to spread the Truth and I admire you taking the risk to try and fix this situation, which you did. Many of my vote followers are my real life friends, a couple are my alternate accounts and a couple of them I do not know.

"you are mad I don't like Alex Jones."

This has nothing to do with him. This is about you spreading lies and behaving hysterically. But thanks for revealing that you have no actually facts to prove he is fake news and that you simply dislike the man. The Truth has come out.

@canadian-coconut replying here because it's nested 6 deep. You're welcome :) I know doctors who import the separate vaccines for their kids. Parents can and should do that via their doctors. it's possible but there's little awareness.