[Warning] Black Hat Attacks from Steem Whales have been Promised!? [Part I]

in #eos7 years ago (edited)

Finding corruption on steem isnt an easy job...especially when you have a history of pissing off corrupt people who forgot why bitcoin and cryptocurrency was made in the first place.

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This is the beginning of the latest threats I received for legitimately and transparently giving more than I receive on this platform.

Reminder. WHILE OTHERS ARE ASKING FOR WITNESSES, I was paying out of pocket to help steem. While corrupt steemwhales collude and then pay armies of trolls to slander me and my projects, I continue building and dont give up on the chance that maybe...JUST MAYBE we will build a better world than the shit mess we currently have. But that wont happen unless I have courage in the face of danger to still do what is right...

In fact I even put good money into trying to clean steems biggest problem (something many people are paid quite well via witnesses to do): Corrupt Whales

And so this is a counter warning to Mr "BlackCEO" and those shortsighted imbiciles for whom he works...

You can HACK ME. Go Ahead. You can steal every single digital token from me...and you STILL cant take the most important thing: my self respect and 100% intention to leave this world a little better than when I came into it as a naked little baby with wonder in my eyes.

Why? Because everyone deserves love and hope that can be brought about by those who truly care. And no amount of money or selling out changes this...

Strike me down and I will only become stronger. You severely underestimate the power of the light and the good people who wield it...

More screenshots will trickle in in the coming days...because why let them be lost and forgotten when they can constantly remind u that these "leaders" for whom Mr. BlackCEO works...do not care about you?

You corrupt "power players" make me ashamed that beyondbitcoin was the inspiration for Steem's creation...because u will never deserve what it was meant to be.


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Human nature is the greatest destroyer of everything. I am not surprised however by this. As Steemit grows, and continues to be a light in a sea of darkness, I believe the threats could get even worse. I think Dan knew this going in. We need to come together and protect each other from this because the only way to defeat things like this is being very tight knit, like an immune system.

Yup. Gotta keep tabs on the scammers/fraudsters/leechers/spammers/hackers; and all of the communities within Steemit need to stay in contact and exchange information on the accounts that are causing issues in their community/group/whatever.

A good example of why this is needed is the recent incident with @chiefmappster. He was/is a problem in various camps, yet we all sat back and stayed quiet hoping he would either change or go away on his own.

That did not happen, he just got worse and ended up on WhaleTank (where they raise funds) using our project's name and making false claims about our project in the broadcast and posts on Steemit and profiting off of our project and attempting to further profit by lying saying we shut down operations.

He had nothing to do with our project outside of playing horrible poker on our site and berating players at the table and in chat, yet was allowed on WhaleTank to raise funds using our name.

This should not happen, ever, and I take full responsibility (but would like some screening on shows like this in the future please) because I had EVERY intention on telling @officialfuzzy about our issues with this guy.

I got so far as to type everything out in a private message, but decided that perhaps it was just me, maybe I'm just being too judgemental about this guy, and decided to see how things went with him at fuzzy's chat.

Had I or any one of us spoken up sooner or spoken to each other sooner we could have booted this cancer from our projects/community a lot sooner. With the recent phishing attacks on Steemit users, the situation in steem.chat with bilal and everything I've mentioned above it would benefit all communities/projects operating in/around Steemit to stay in contact and report accounts that are causing problems.

My 2 STEEM

There was absolutely nothing said in this post other than...

I've been receiving messages. I am good... They are bad... See here is a picture of a strange message. I don't know who sent it.. I am good. I will keep doing good. I was a naked baby trying to give stuff away.. more pic coming... Why jump on that bandwagon?

More is coming. I bring it in a trickle...

In the meantime...take those 5 minutes you spent attacking me and go do some research.

Steem is led by corrupt actors enjoy that.

@officialfuzzy will you release the names and some more substantive facts against these Steemit whales?

Couldn't agree more. The only way to fight corruption is by standing together against it. There are more of us than them, and surely we hold a bigger combined stake. I'm a tiny little ant soldier, but I'll bite and scratch at every bit of unscrupulous BS I see going on...

Thanks tuck. I am not perfect and i dont get the resources of the scheming whales on here so i must rely mote on community and i have to say i appreciate you.

I'm even smaller and I agree we must take back what we deserve.

This is messed up! We definitely have to stick together and fight the corruption!

Yes, and we have to continue to support the projects created by the truly kind-hearted and good people here on Steemit who give so much of their time and energy to help others both here and in the "real word". This is what Fuzzy envisioned with BeyondBitcoin and is currently still doing every week. We can't let the platform fail and bring us all down over systemic greed.

Yes we have to corner a part of steemit and fortify it. I think quality of service and posts is what we have to fight for.

Comeaaaan! Give humans a break :)

I think humans are the only animal that can overcome fear and the resulting selfishness.
If anything is a great destroyer it is our animal nature based in fear. Our human nature is the way out of this mess, if we choose to live it...
After all it's a choice: we live love, or we live in fear. Peace!

That is the question. If big whales and even ned ALL have a history of attacking me...after all ive done, is it really a light in the darkness? Or is it a mirage in dangerous desert where you go to be milked of your value until death?

Human nature is a powerful destroyer...but also equally powerful as creator. We are meant to create and not destroy. In my mind it is a choice and the "high up" whales by whom he is hired choose to totally exemplify this aspect of humanity to which you so perfectly refer...

fuzzyvest your post provided 0 evidence of anything other than you received some type of a hacking threat. If you know who is going to hack you can you please back up your accusations.
This at this point is just FUD, Self-Promotion and Demonizing "whales". Can you please tell us exactly what it is you are trying to say, or stop spreading fud.

Anyone with any rational skills will see this for meaningless drama, and if it didn't impact my investment I wouldn't care.

Obviously, I have no control over what you say, but I am a bit beyond annoyed that you feel it is okay for a community leader to spread fud with no facts.

i dont understand this
are you accused of hacking? or are they willing to hack you?

and what does mysql have to do with the blockchain ?

its not clear to me whats going on here

57 upvotes for your comment? Didn't @officialfuzzy mention an army of paid trolls against him? Seems legit now...

There will be another posted tomorrow. Im showing it all slowly so people dont forget this.

I think you mean "I'm showing it all slowly so I can make up the story as we go along without making it too obvious I'm just looking for attention".

Yeah, I'm curious for more details too. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I've read this twice, so you received an odd message on Discord? Was this your first day? I get weird shit from strangers every day.

The martyr routine gets pretty old. If you are giving more than you can comfortably give, for the sake of your health, mood and family, I would recommend you dial it back some.

I believe you do give a lot, and the only reason I know anything about that is that you TELL US. Over and over, it just isn't becoming.

I do think you have a very loyal following of people who you have helped and thank you for that.

If you have something to say about corruption and ambiguous threats wouldn't it be best to post something with some evidence, or facts or at least understandable subjection.

Again thanks for all you do, but this post made me cringe and the reasoning ability of those who just jumped on the bandwagon of OMG without the slightest bit of evidence. SMH.

https://steemit.com/eos/@officialfuzzy/dear-bernie-sanders-you-missed-one-whaletank-announcement-is-on-eostalkio

Just two weeks ago. Is this hurting me? Or the community?

Usually a good idea is to wait before judging so harshly. When attacked by whales who work for someone who asked me to sell out for double sp (750k)...and with far fewer resources...im forced to fight back.
Funny how you can project such arrogance on me for self defense.

You are the type of person who blames a rape victim for saying they have a boyfriend to defend against the rapist calling her a slut.

Yet you care about facts...

The teamspeak crowd? Are we in gangs now... What colors do you wear? By the way, I interact enjoy, vote for and respect many people who are involved in whaleshares.

I don't want to "fight" with you.

This is my complaint... When you ambiguously attack the whales you attack everyone's investment. That is all, if you have evidence and not speculation, I would love to see it or hear it. I don't care who you hang out with. Looking forward to some facts and evidence.
Again, thank you for attracting and helping retain some great people.

Apparently so...but this is not because of me!

I was Banned from Steemspeak EVEN THOUGH FYRSTIKKEN gained traction with the community after steems launch by joining and Staying in Beyond Bitcoin Mumble. I have recordings of fyrstikken threatening my projects!
I have recordings of him joining beyondbitcoin hangouts to LIE to people about Golos when @adsactly gave him 1 million Golos and he never gave it back!

Oh and...you know while my grandfather was dying, they were kicking me from steemspeak and so ned could announce the community coin ideas I had in early steem as their own. Not that any of these thing matter. And yes. I do amazing shit. What do you do? support him? seriously?

I suspect you never will do actual research though will you...

I have more and more evidence...and just because you think you will make me push it all out at once, it wont happen that way. This is happening because of your leadership.. not me. Stop acting as though i'm some pompous child when you support that shit.

I'm sorry you have conflicts with fyrst. I am talking to you about YOUR post. I can't and don't answer for Fyrst. I don't hate whaleshares.
I acknowledge hearing and commenting on a post that fyrst mentioned flagging whaleshares and had a nice fyrst style rant. I said... Something about seeing how it went before coming to any conclusions. It is on the blockchain. I don't know anything more about it.
Personally, I have no issue with your tokens, projects, friends or enemies. I have clarified my points in other places and will let this drop here.

I said.. your post provides no evidence. It doesn't.
I said... You tell us how good you are non-stop. - you can reread any of your posts for confirmation.
I said ... what you are saying is bad for my investment. - no proof - factless assessment.
I said you HAVE helped many.
I stand by those statements.

You bring up rape? WTH.
I don't follow your logic.

you will see man. unfortunately i have to do it over time for important reasons. I urge you to follow and reassess who you support on steem. If you care about your investment...

Oh wow. you are actually talking to me now respectfully instead of acting like I'm peacocking. Now we can start on common ground.

I take it you know very little of the history...

Sure. U will get plenty of facts (notice the part 1?)

Oh and also i talk about what i do because people attack me and i want people to know the history (because its relevant). I thought u wanted facts...oh no thats right...you dont.

So unsure what else to say. This has little to do with me giving too much. U are totally lost and i expect it. Watch for future posts and follow. I grow tired of wasting time on this.

Here lies another of the many reasons it is hard to get new people to be a part of steemit and succeed. This is so sad to read.

It would be great if the whales would try to help the little guys and grow the platform, but apparently they are chatting, infighting, and colluding instead. Very discouraging to us little guys.

I have noticed how they all upvote each other automatically too, you're right, it's not encouraging!

That's why us little guys have to stick together. It seems like the big guys are focused on themselves and their intrigue.

I'm encouraged by people who are posting 1-3 times a day and making $10-$30 per post. That's what I'm aiming for and trying to ignore the battles up above as much as I can.

Today I do lots of commenting and lots of replying - since my posts basically do not get seen. I'm not giving up on the place yet but it is certainly a puzzle :)

So what is the strategy to be moderately succesful on steemit?

Provide the users with good content. Success wont come easy or instantly, unless your'e a bit of a celebrity like JB or AK.

One of my posts got just under 800 views but it didn't make anything lol. I guess you just have to keep putting out the content and showing some patience that you might one day be one of the success stories :-)

I'd say go back to 2016 if you can otherwise it's nothing more than a circle jerk :-) I can't see anyone having any quality noticed, I hope I'm wrong!

Thanks for the lengthy overview. Most of it I knew, but it was a good reminder. I think you should do some research on the profitability of SP leasing. It seems one cannot make profit out of it. The only thing you might gain is visibility.

I'm looking at my sp leasing as a win for the foreseeable future. The difference between an upvote of .01 and .14 has been dramatic in rewards and in attention to my voting and profile.

I'm shocked to tell you that my little upvote puts me to the top of most posts I vote on now! I'm almost always in the top 20 and often much higher than that.

This is because that majority of big fish who bother to vote for little fish at all are voting at

  • low power from too much voting
  • low percentage by using the slider

I used to get rewards of .001 - .010 maybe. Now I am up in the range of .030 - .050+ and my "actual" sp is growing much more quickly that it was. I could not afford to buy this sp myself right now. The effect of 150 sp leased is dramatic compared to 10 sp I could purchase with the same amount of sbd.

I think over time, the leasing will be less effective, but until my actual sp is above 1000 or so, I think it will be worth it. Maybe even higher than that, but I will not know until I get there :)

Thanks - leasing SP is something I'll look into further.

I was talking about absolute figures. You have the feeling your SP increases more quickly but you have to pay for it.

Here is a very detailed calculation and explanation. Your influence/visibility is a total different story.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@therealwolf/is-leasing-steempower-from-minnowbooster-worth-it

Edit: also check the comment where reggaemuffin confirms this.

I just wrote a post about this. I hope this helps you, feel free to ask any questions.

https://steemit.com/howto/@ecoinstant/how-to-get-started-and-be-successful-at-steemit

I just read this - thanks for the comment curation idea. I had not thought of it in that way.

I just linked my recent post on this topic below. Maybe my tips will help you too. Some are similar, but I have some others :)

I'll check it out.

Yes I'd be happy with $20 a day, very happy! I have started commenting more, and sticking together, I think you are right there!

You are not a little guy. You are an experienced user with 53 rep. Those who fight are generally greedy ones. Steemit attracts a lot of greedy people. Actually, more greedy users are attracted to steem than general public which is a problem.

Thank you for the complement. I'm thinking I'm little until I have 5000 sp - but I'm making that up :)

I am connected to content creators on the rest of the internet. I have only shared the idea of posting here with a few of the "crazy" ones. So far only one has joined and kept posting. The other 4 think I am wasting my time and want to hear nothing about the place.

I'm not recruiting now, but instead try to help those who came in after me and are struggling. We get around 1000 new people a day and you know they all need help!

I have 53 rep too...

Its not that hard to achieve. And when it comes to the Steemit model - reputation is only one factor.

A heavier factor is Steem Power

...which any person with a heavy wallet can gain a lot of.

@fitinfun...I find it quite the opposite..

I find it as a true example of what God says in His Holy Word...darkness will battle against light...(John 1:5)

Ultimately, the Light will win...

ALWAYS....

For me, this is a real 'scene' out of Star Wars.

Peace!

But the darkside is winning.

An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.

“It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.”
He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?”

The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

When I start reading your comment I assumed I would like the outcome, not suprised that it did :-) I copied it and will send it to my dad, I'm sure hé will like it too, thanks! :-)

The dark side cannot win. If it does, then it will be destroyed by itself as well, so it still loses.

I do not know if light will win. I only know that the dark cannot.

Nope...

Not so...

Only what your natural mind is perceiving...

Peace.

Ironicallu this conversation kight be one of the best today.

Star Wars and the bible all in one! Maybe written by the same people even :)

As a Star Wars fan, I'm glad to be able to say it has a Biblically-based script...the battle of good against evil..darkness against light...

Yes, they are repetitive - I give you that :)

An inevitable problem from the beginning here on Steemit, unless they start changing things via forks, and preferably before we are freed from beta.

Hell, the other day, some guy dropped over $5,000,000 n Steem, and if that guy wanted to, he could manipulate the shit out of Steemit if he wanted to.

I foresee, if nothing is fixed, that a super rich Robin Hood of sorts will one day join the ranks of Steemit, and will up-vote all the shit content he sees, driving all the shit to the top... which is really going to be a fun spectacle to watch.

I'd hope that the Robin Hood of sorts 'doesn't' up-vote crappy content. ;c)

Simply behaving differently from the King-makers would suffice.

Ha ha, what I meant, is that with pay-to-win systems... manipulation is an easy task.

That is exactly my fear now. I've said this from Day One - What if the Alexa Ranking is fake? What if it is driven by the relentless churning of the big guys? Instead of good posts rising to the top of search - do we have things like videos with no text? I have been keeping the blinders on for this answer so far.

If crap content is what makes this place rank - we don't need the black hats to arrive. Steemit will implode all on its own as the outside world arrives to see garbage. I really hope that is not true and that is why I stay here and try.

People like Jerry Banfield are the controllers on here @fitinfun, and people like him are only out for themselves... which Steemit is sadly the perfect match for such personalities.

Well, I'm jerry's fan from a few platforms and he has helped me a lot in a few different areas. On steemit I post into his upvotable posts and he has gone to support those people I've promoted and others with good upvotes and he puts some of them on his upvote bot.

I think of jerry as a kid in a playhouse. He bashes around with optimism - tries what he tries, and keeps with what works. He makes mistakes, admits them and works to improve.

I only wish I could be so successful and still be helping those down the line like he does.

He capitalizes information that is freely available on Steem. If that isn't sleazy behavior, I don't know what is. His course on how to become a witness? Not only have other witnesses (@someguy123 comes to mind) offered instructions for no charge at all, but I have yet to see him putting in the effort of actually helping anyone but himself.

Glad he's working out for you, but the guy sells free information. It's a sleazy move, and he should know better.

Well, I'm surely not interested in being a witness, so this goes over my head. If being a witness is anything as complicated as posting here at all, I'm pretty sure his advice is helpful to some.

I haven't paid for any of jerry's help, but I have been paid for his upvotes, so I'm not feeling negative about his presence here. Also - he was the final reason I actually joined steemit when I did. He has infectious enthusiasm if you don't hate the guy :)

I'm glad I'm not the only one @Anarcho-andrei, I knew there were others who saw through the bullshit.

I agree. Followed.

He has helped me, and I've never been charged. I admit that I don't know his true motives, but I can't fault anyone for making a living selling things that anyone can get for free. Many people don't respect anything for which they didn't have to pay. If I have to charge someone to get them to take me seriously, so be it.

So true! This is my basic problem in life - giving away information for free. I hope one day I will figure out how to make better money with what I know, so in that sense - he's a role model.

Indeed. Thanks for the reply.

Do some more research on him @lifeworship, he's even been kicked off of Udemy for unethical behavior... the guys bad news.

Will do, I definitely don't want to be playing the fool.

Thanks.

Up-vote bots are a disease here on Steemit @fitinfun, and as an experiment, you should create a post that says, if you think Jerry Banfield is a douche, up-vote this post, and I bet his bot will up-vote the post... does that sound logical to you?

I'm not here to make controversy and stomp on anyone else's parade, but I see your point. I'm not in favor of bots in general, but I am happy to be on this one if this is the way the big guys play this game. I feel logic is not a good way to approach steemit in general and will send you down the wrong path time and again.

The "big guys" you speak of, are the ones who will unfortunately kill this platform if things don't change... and soon too.

I tried discord for a couple of days when I got here and got out of it. I am trying to stay on steemit and I am not really a chatter by nature. It seemed like a lot of wasted time, vote begging, bickering, and saying good morning and good night. I wish the work was on steemit instead of in chats, but I think I am in the minority.

Minority yes, but not alone.

Thank you! So glad to hear from another non-chatter :)

I'm with you! I can't even bring myself to get into the good groups on discord its just too much. I do all my work on this platform and don't worry about chat rooms.

I tried in the first days and ran! Then I decided to look into it later in case I was just too dumb to understand. But since then - I only hear of troubles related to chat or advertisements to try to get us to go there. I thought I would try again in Sep, but now it will be Jan or later as I have other more interesting things to pursue here.

stellabelle is now posting in twitter that she's gotten out of the chats, so I'm watching to see if she has any details about that decision. Maybe some of the technical people need them, but I'm not even sure of that.

I think chats should be happening in steemit comments where everyone can be involved and where it helps the platform have engagement for search engines. The average steemit post only gets three comments according to penguinpablo, so it's not like the chatters would be unwelcome.

I have other more interesting things to pursue here

Indeed!

A big long list of steemit tasks I don't get to :)

Ned likes to troll. :)

is it trolling or threatening? :/

Personally, I think Ned and I have an understanding at this point and I'm cool with it.

He doesn't like me and I don't like the way he runs Steemit. :)

That all said, I do have a little bit of respect for the guy for not getting all bent out of shape when I called him a prick in chat ... but I hope everyone understands that I only wrote this sentence ... to call him a prick again. :D

Hey Fuzzy, I've been meaning to ask you ...

Do you think I should go to SteemFest?

=b

i would love to say yes because i love the idea of steem. however the reality of it....is a bit different.

fucking reality.

Reality....

:(

Wow @officialfuzzy you sound a bit like me at times! I call myself ZENA as I am not afraid to stand up for what is right and justice. You go my friend. you have my 100% support! Rsteemed

When I joined steemit 3 months ago I was not so familiar with all this Whale Dolphin Minnow terminology but one Day I made a post which got me about a Dollar it was the highest I​ ever got but I was flagged hard because someone didn't like my ideas my rep dropped to 11 I was about to leave Steemit.

This scenario might just happen to more than one person and that person might not step back up and just quit.

This Hurts Steemit .

Hopefully proxy voting will allow us to band together to fix this! And they need to implement better comment sorting too - maybe like YouTube's with a few new ones on top every now and then.

Nothing to worry about @officialfuzzy. You once told me you are constantly building something nice. Though we haven't been chatting recently because I'm a bit busy these days, but I encourage you to keep doing the right thing. Attacks are inevitable from evil people, but standing on the right thing gives you victory ultimately.

Good people exist. I take great comfort in this.

You are most welcome,bro. Steem on.

Looks like a 13 yr old wrote that threat. :D

dont hack me bro! ;)

Sorry for your troubles... But the most corrupt thing on Steemit is the trending page and the same list of names that are there day in and day out. It doesn't matter what they post, when they post -- BAM -- right to the top. It's a shame.., but if anything brings Steemit down, it will be that...

It is quite disheartening to see the trending page especially for new users.I see lots of issues that will need to be resolved if Steemit wants to survive. Looking at the graphs on steemdata i see that there has been a big decline in user activity. It seems that the bots have taken over and are voting just the top users, creating a ruling class which i didnt think Steemit was invented for.

Actually what is worse is the sockpuppets.

You may be right... But I do know two wrongs don't make a right. Thanks for the reply.