Sir Bernie Of The Butthurt Still Firing Shots In The #Butthurtwars

in #butthurtwars6 years ago

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How do you feel about bullies and bullying? I personally will not stand for it. If you try and physically bully me I will fight you.

If you try and emotionally bully me, I will fight back with intellect and wit.

@berniesanders you are a weak, pathetic, tin pot dictator. If you had any real power the world would be a very dangerous place..

Dictator Butthurt

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Poor @berniesanders is just so ronerry



So Sir Bernie of the Butthurt is angry at me for two reasons.

  1. I commented on a one word post of his pointing out that it was a shitpost. I said something along the lines of "Come on Bern, you're better than this." For that I was flagged.

  2. I made a post called Steem Debates: Do Bullies Prosper On Steemit?

In that post I highlighted the fact that Sir Butthurt was not only content with flagging people, he tries to stop people talking to the ones he has flagged.

This is the ultimate dictator behaviour, his fragile ego can't handle somebody talking to someone he has flagged, in case they find out what a pathetic loser he is.

Onwards and Upwards!

Anyway I shall carry on in my quest to get you to start acting like a decent human being (don't worry I'm not holding my breath).

To those of you too scared to talk to me because of Sir Butthurt's vengeance, I don't mind and I understand.

For those of you who don't respond to bullying, I welcome your comments!

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@berniesanders,

As you know, your manner of comportment ... draws fire. You're brash, in-your-face and ever-confrontational. You will NEVER win (even last place) in a Personality Contest.

That said, you are often the ONLY Whale willing to do anything to push back against the endemic abuses that are crippling the blockchain ... a subject about which, I would wager, I am unequaled in terms of word-count. As a result, I have defended your "unorthodox actions" on a number of occasions when it was unpopular to do so.

But, mate ... sometimes you go too far ... and your recent pissing match with Cryptogee is one of those times. Cryptogee is a highly respected member of Steemit. He habitually creates excellent quality content and his insights are habitually intelligent, thought-provoking and well-articulated. Irrespective of what triggered this brawl, it needs to end.

@cryptogee, that goes for you too. Enough with the Diatribe to Dictators stuff. You've made your point and what would further ranting and raving accomplish?

Both of you ... just drop it.

STEEM is currently trading at $0.18 and has dropped to 82nd in terms of market cap. The blockchain's once-vaunted "Core of 50,000 Active Users" is down to 8,000. These ego-driven free-for-alls serve no purpose other than to alienate more people.

At 51, I expect I'm the oldest of the three of us, and frankly fellas, it shows. Gray hair and gravitas.

I would request that neither of you reply to this comment. Forgo the opportunity to get in the last word. Just stop swinging, walk in the other direction ... and if someone says something, blame it on me.

Quill

Hi @quillfire
Interesting comment.
The problem I have with your comment is that you seem to ignore the fact that the @ngc / @berniesanders group of accounts is actually thousands of accounts by his own admission. He is the largest producer of shit posts, spam and self voting on the blockchain. He also likes to make death threats. He should be in jail.

The remedy is to stand firm with @cryptogee and everyone else he attacks and ensure he is forcibly removed from holding steem power. We need to get rid of this psychopath

@joe.public,

Disclaimer: Cryptogee is one of my best and oldest friends on Steemit. Hence, I am not an impartial obsever. Such friendship, however, does not cripple the functioning of my pre-frontal cortex. To wit:

Firstly, given what you know about the present realities of Steemit, what would you estimate the chances that @cryptogee's railing against @bernie will compel Bernie to "surrender?" Bernie is a Whale, Cryptogee is not. That disparity has consequences, one we might call, "Realpolitik."

Secondly, I have written countless posts, comments and replies about how to reform Steemit so as to, amongst other things, prevent just these kinds of conflicts. None have been considered let alone implemented. Why not?

It's not because of Bernie being a prick. It's because the preponderance of Whales and Witnesses won't implement any reform that restrains their ability to game the system.

I am not being a Bernie-apologist ... his (and other whales') policy of auto-downvoting the comments of "friends of enemies," for example, is indefensible. It is, definitionally, a gross abuse of power. Indeed, it was just such shenanigans that made a mess of the comments section of my 18-year-old daughter's first Steemit post (she had originally planned to use her account to post articles about her 8+ years of Alzheimer's Research (for which she has recently received USD $70,000 in scholarships). On that occasion, I would have liked to put Bernie's head through a wall.

Zooming out to look at the bigger picture though, the reality is that because Bernie is crass in his comportment (style), he takes a lot of shit for challenging our more polished, but nevertheless crooked-to-the-core, Whales and Witnesses (substance).

And, the reality is that, like me, as Bernie railed against the abuses ... he largely railed alone as the overwhelming majority of like-minded Steemians were happy to remain silent while letting him take all the slings and arrows of life's outrageous fortune. From personal experience, it makes one bitter. And that bitterness can cause one to become unhinged from time to time. Personally, I have had to take prolonged absences from the blockchain on two occasions because my level of disgust was becoming pathological. Perhaps if I'd possessed a pile of SP, like Bernie, my response to the endemic corruption would have been different.

Back to the present: Irrespective of all else, Bernie's and Cryptogee's on-going grudge match inarguably serves no purpose for either ... and war fought absent a purpose is the province of fools.

Quill

Dear @quillfire : ) I really enjoyed reading your reply.

I am not in favor of your call for a retreat in the name of expediency. I have no respect for that attitude, it is what is fucking this world up. Going along to get along.

Your daughters experience is regrettable along with so many other peoples experiences her.e This platform is controlled by people with very limited imaginations. Unfortunately they do not have clue about anything beyond their own limited and immediate self interest. They are unaware, completely clueless about how this platform could be used to create a better world for everyone including themselves. They imagine that the price will recover if they ignore what is going on and keep doing what they are doing.

What we need is people who have the balls to do what is right. Not what is expedient.

I think this place is worth fighting for. We only get flags. Nobody believes that the reputation score here is an accurate reflection of their character! So what if we don't get a few minuscule rewards? we did not have them anyway!

The way things stand right now, you would need to be completely delusional to invest cash into Steem. Lets try to turn this thing around and get rid of the cancer.

@joe.public,

I agree, wholeheartedly, with everything you just said. To be accurate, I'm not advocating "retreat." Indeed, I think I could rightly claim to having done more than my fair share to stir up a rebellion.

That said, I'm an old soldier and there is such a thing as beating a dead horse. Falling back and regrouping is NOT retreating ... it is a means of "living to fight another day." Pyrrhic victories are so-called because they are losses in all but name.

Quill

Thanks for your thoughtful reply @quillfire
Its funny that you bring up pyrrhic victory, because it seems that is exactly what the minions and followers of team @ngc / @berniesanders will reap. I suspect that is the outcome their outspoken leader is looking for.

Lol. Thank you for your comment General Butthurt, we all love you so much Dear Leader and nobody thinks you're a pathetic bully and serial masturbator.

#butthurtwars

Cg

YOU ARE ON THE NAUGHTY LIST. YOU HAVE BEEN FLAGGED. GOODBYE.

This is coming from a guy who is completely obsessed with me.

Your life is really that pathetic, eh?

I know you hate me cause you ain’t me, but it’s tome to get over it.

Hmm, let's explore this obsession. I make a post about pathetic bullies and you (quite rightly) conclude it's about you, and then flag me in a bullying manner.

I know it's hard for you to recognise your own mental illness, but seriously, use some of your steem to seek help from a psychiatric professional.

Cg

YOU ARE ON THE NAUGHTY LIST. YOU HAVE BEEN FLAGGED. GOODBYE.

The author behind @abusereports is the @ngc / @berniesanders group of account who claims to own the top twenty witnesses. He is also very proud of the fact that he holds thousands of accounts.
He uses these accounts for:
Voting witnesses.
Flagging content which is not supported by main stream media
Flagging random accounts (usually small accounts) as a cover for his more earnest censorship work.
He takes great delight in tormenting the random small accounts and those who want to make the world a better place. Plus its a great cover for his real work of censorship and creating a dystopian future for the platform and the real world.

These abuses are all conducted with the FULL SUPPORT of the top 20 Witness @themarkymark
The markymark seems like a nice guy on the surface but he is corrupt to the core and cares not one jot about bullshitting you, right to your face. Just another politician.

This individual has become like a gangrenous limb which needs to be amputated in order to save the body.

Its time to grow up and take responsibility for our own environments people.

The latest HF is designed for the sole purpose of enriching this group of accounts.
He has thousands of votes to give witnesses because he has thousands of accounts.
PS he is also the largest SELF VOTER here. sad isnt it?

Say all you want, you’re the one seeking attention by making posts about me, and you say I’m the one with issues?

Ain’t my fault you’re too pathetic for anyone to actually care about.

People don't give a fuck about receiving a pathetic comment like that.

It just makes them feel sorry for you!

And that is not how I want people to see you. So spice it up a bit

I'm making posts about you because your behaviour is quite appalling. You behave like a college frat boy. Telling people not to speak with the ones you are displeased with.

You're a bully and need to be put in his place, plain and simple.

Cg

YOU ARE ON THE NAUGHTY LIST. YOU HAVE BEEN FLAGGED. GOODBYE.

The author behind @abusereports is the @ngc / @berniesanders group of account who claims to own the top twenty witnesses. He is also very proud of the fact that he holds thousands of accounts.
He uses these accounts for:
Voting witnesses.
Flagging content which is not supported by main stream media
Flagging random accounts (usually small accounts) as a cover for his more earnest censorship work.
He takes great delight in tormenting the random small accounts and those who want to make the world a better place. Plus its a great cover for his real work of censorship and creating a dystopian future for the platform and the real world.

These abuses are all conducted with the FULL SUPPORT of the top 20 Witness @themarkymark
The markymark seems like a nice guy on the surface but he is corrupt to the core and cares not one jot about bullshitting you, right to your face. Just another politician.

This individual has become like a gangrenous limb which needs to be amputated in order to save the body.

Its time to grow up and take responsibility for our own environments people.

The latest HF is designed for the sole purpose of enriching this group of accounts.
He has thousands of votes to give witnesses because he has thousands of accounts.
PS he is also the largest SELF VOTER here. sad isnt it?

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Sir epeens is also flagging me.

Funny, he just got steem stake; so I still earn rewards on the other tribes :D

We finally need an anti-bully-organisation

Hopefully steem goes to 1ct; I'd be able to become an orca.
and Sir Butthurt is loosing real money. :)

Yeah he's a bully, but you are too! I remember when u tried that bully crap on me accusing me of anything and everything, lol and it didn’t work, I broke you, you cried and shriveled up and wen't bye bye! You get voted up by anthony of steemflagrewards, so as far as I'm concerned u are just one of them! You support him, bernie's and marky, I think you are a very confused bear but whatever.

Loving your series! You are a fantastic writer and have an amazing sense of humor! The sad thing is Bernie is so narcissistic he doesn't even know he has become the butt of everyone's jokes.

Cheers man!

The author behind @kawaiicrush spends every waking moment of his pathetic life thinking about @berniesanders. He claims @berniesanders has made over 11 million dollars in Steem and is INSANELY jealous he could never live such an amazing life. He's SO fucking pathetic he will make multiple posts and comments with ABSURD claims just to get the attention of his 8 pathetic followers who also have nothing better to do with their time than dream about @berniesanders and the life they will never live. How fucking pathetic can someone be, @kawaiicrush?

The author behind @kawaiicrushed is the @ngc / @berniesanders group of account who claims to own the top twenty witnesses. He is also very proud of the fact that he holds thousands of accounts.
He uses these accounts for:
Voting witnesses.
Flagging content which is not supported by main stream media
Flagging random accounts (usually small accounts) as a cover for his more earnest censorship work.
He takes great delight in tormenting the random small accounts and those who want to make the world a better place. Plus its a great cover for his real work of censorship and creating a dystopian future for the platform and the real world.

These abuses are all conducted with the FULL SUPPORT of the top 20 Witness @themarkymark
The markymark seems like a nice guy on the surface but he is corrupt to the core and cares not one jot about bullshitting you, right to your face. Just another politician.

This individual has become like a gangrenous limb which needs to be amputated in order to save the body.

Its time to grow up and take responsibility for our own environments people.

The latest HF is designed for the sole purpose of enriching this group of accounts.
He has thousands of votes to give witnesses because he has thousands of accounts.
PS he is also the largest SELF VOTER here. sad isnt it?

Thanks!

You're right, I think he is completely unaware that 100% of people think he's a joke and/or a huge gaping arsehole.

Even his minions who circle jerk his shitposts are dwindling.

Cg

Yes, he is a bit of a
cunt
isnt he : )

I can only think of one way to rid ourselves of this kind.

It is clear to me that we need to gather support for banning the operator of the @ngc / @berniesanders group of accounts from holding any Steem Power. Just expel him through democratic consensus.
He is far more destructive than just a bully. Most of his bullying is to disguise what he really wants to sensor.

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHH

YOURE SUCH A SILLY CUNT. NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU RETARDS. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL??

I love these comments, because they make me visualise you sitting there in a tank top in front of your semen encrusted keyboard eating ho hos or whatever it is maladjusted Americans like yourself eat.

Heil Bernie!

#butthurtwars

Cg

That’s because you will never know what’s it’s like to actually have money and live an enjoyable life.

Maybe you should do something about that. Like....get a job?

Did you grow up poor @ngc / @berniesanders ?

Wow that must have been very difficult for you.

Lol, if only you knew what a minnow you are compared to me...

I'm enjoying my life a lot right now, never more so when I confront pathetic bullies like you. What happened man, mommy didn't give you enough hugs? Daddy used his belt on you too often?

Or was it Unkie Henry sneaking into your bed at night?

Whatever it is, you need help man. It's not normal to behave in the way you do, you're sick seek help.

#butthurtwars

Cg

YOU ARE ON THE NAUGHTY LIST. YOU HAVE BEEN FLAGGED. GOODBYE.

And you’re obsessed with someone you claim has issues. How sad is that?

You're confusing concern with obsession.

Get help before it's too late.

#butthurtwars

Cg

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Steem has no mechanism of democratic consensus. It has stake weighting, referring only to financial stake, and no other metrics. Bernie is one of the original ninjaminers, has immense stake, and it is notable that in his flagwar with @fulltimegeek, who purchased his stake with fiat, FTG has been completely censored by Steemit, while Bernie remains flagging, posting, and self-voting at will. Many witnesses support his witness. I just found that my proxy was, and changed my proxy.

If you seek to effect some sanction, you need to consider the actual real mechanisms available to do so. Democracy doesn't exist on Steem. Financial stake is all there is.

He seems to have convergent interests with Stinc, as I note that HF21 will include a gift that seems intended to be for him particularly: the downvote pool, which will give him 25% of his VP in free flags. I wonder how he'll use that power?

Not really. I know exactly what he'll do: destroy onboarding, retention, and the possibility of the price of Steem rising by flagging everyone that he can, and particularly those that care about the pennies they won't earn from posts because of it. Bernies bots are the leading downvoting force on the blockchain, and together surpass @steemcleaners, or any other downvoting effort. Clearly that's the policy consensus witnesses and Stinc want to support, since Hard Fork 21 will make it possible for Bernie to fork us 25% harder.

The rhetoric in support of the downvote pool never mentioned Bernie, and claimed it would be used against bid bots, plagiarists, and spam. Well, there is a thing called the blockchain that reveals who has flown flags and why, but I never saw a comparison using that data as justification. The history of flags on Steem does not support those claims. My experience certainly contradicts them.

HF21 will do the opposite of what you propose, by increasing the flagging power of Bernie and decreasing the relative power of less substantially staked accounts to resist, or even survive, being flagged. Remember, we're also going to a semi-exponential rewards curve, which will further increase the power of large stake versus small stake, and that will include flags too.

It will also apply to witness votes, increasing the direct power of the ninjaminers over the witnesses.

Overall, the actual power of democratic consensus on Steem, already practically nonexistent, will be further reduced, and Bernie's flagging power will be dramatically increased, by HF21. It will be interesting to see how far Steem falls on CMC, and how low the price of Steem actually goes, after it is implemented. Without users, there is no bottom, no support level above zero, and we're already watching the market for Steem contract before EIP hits. The market is pricing HF21 in already.

Folks that care about their stake are acting now. Witnesses are powering down. Many large stakes that I am aware of are. If ya'll care about your money, you might give these things some thought and exercise due prudential diligence as appropriate.

@fiveart seems to have called it.

Never have I seen anyone better articulate exactly what is happening here, even once. Thank you for putting everything I see, as well as feel, into words.

Cheers Valued.

YOU ARE ON THE NAUGHTY LIST. YOU HAVE BEEN FLAGGED. GOODBYE.

The author behind @kawaiicrush spends every waking moment of his pathetic life thinking about @berniesanders. He claims @berniesanders has made over 11 million dollars in Steem and is INSANELY jealous he could never live such an amazing life. He's SO fucking pathetic he will make multiple posts and comments with ABSURD claims just to get the attention of his 8 pathetic followers who also have nothing better to do with their time than dream about @berniesanders and the life they will never live. How fucking pathetic can someone be, @kawaiicrush?

The author behind @kawaiicrushed is the @ngc / @berniesanders group of account who claims to own the top twenty witnesses. He is also very proud of the fact that he holds thousands of accounts.
He uses these accounts for:
Voting witnesses.
Flagging content which is not supported by main stream media
Flagging random accounts (usually small accounts) as a cover for his more earnest censorship work.
He takes great delight in tormenting the random small accounts and those who want to make the world a better place. Plus its a great cover for his real work of censorship and creating a dystopian future for the platform and the real world.

These abuses are all conducted with the FULL SUPPORT of the top 20 Witness @themarkymark
The markymark seems like a nice guy on the surface but he is corrupt to the core and cares not one jot about bullshitting you, right to your face. Just another politician.

This individual has become like a gangrenous limb which needs to be amputated in order to save the body.

Its time to grow up and take responsibility for our own environments people.

The latest HF is designed for the sole purpose of enriching this group of accounts.
He has thousands of votes to give witnesses because he has thousands of accounts.
PS he is also the largest SELF VOTER here. sad isnt it?

Hi @cryptogee

You have a way with words. I would like to put together a comment that i can spam about the place. Are you willing to help cobble one together?

I was thinking something like:
Did You Know
The @ngc / @berniesander group of accounts claims to:
hold thousands of accounts
Control the top twenty witnesses (well he has a lot more votes to give than most of us)

What needs to be done about this situation?

He also makes the odd death threat every now and then.

He loves chasing off people like @greenman who loved to share large up votes with his commenters. There are a lot of guys like @greenman who would love to put a few hundred thousand into a community project without burning the capitol. You can fund local community projects with votes and not burn your capitol! But @ngc / @berniesanders group of accounts does not want that. He wants things his way.

What do you think we should do about it?
Jump ship or fight it out?

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I'm not sure about the spammy comment element, however I do like the sentiment. Perhaps a post or series of posts?

Are you on Discord? Let's continue the conversation over there if so.

Cg

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