RE: I Should Be Writing About Gaining 1000 Followers - Instead I Have To Address A Bigger Issue
I really dislike bullies. @noganoo is a bully and a coward. This sorry excuse for a person behaves like this because he is apparently a sociopath and also because he clearly believes there are no consequences (that matter to him) for his actions. I can literally feel the pain he has caused you for attacking your family so brutally. It is little comfort but do bear in mind that such a coward would never utter such things to your face. He feels safe, cloaked in anonymity, deep in his putrid, little hole.
I would gladly join a concerted effort to rid Steemit of his foul stench. His behaviour towards you and your family should be an affront to every Steemian. Let's take as much action as the system permits to shun this despicable, tedious, waste of time.
Thank you so much for your support, we appreciate it so much - I just don't want people to fall for his lies again, he's out there playing the victim when he bought it all down on himself.
Why do you flag the opposition in a debate? Bill Nye & Ken Ham are opposites but they did not flag each other. Trump & Hillary Clinton did not flag themselves during the debate. A lot of people flag even as there can be more debate.
Yeah I don't think you read the post, this is not a debate - he said he wished my kids were dead, he deserves no voice on this platform.
@krystle, I know that. I read that. I am writing. What I write and wrote does not mean it is an automatic debate. What I wrote is not automatically a bad thing. Maybe it is a bad thing. Maybe I am a bad person. But I was exercising my freedom of religion. You said you are tolerant to people of different religions and faiths and cults and beliefs and everything.
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In my religion, I believe in talking. It is that simple. I just wanted to compare our lives to the lives of some famous or infamous people. I think it is better to have perspective. I believe in analogies. I believe in the freedom of speech. There is a debate about whether free speech includes hate speech. If hate speech is not included, then who determines what is hate and what is not hate?
You are not making any sense here ^^^^^^^^^ It's like a bad Dr. Suess book
lmao a bad Dr. Suess book
Are you the brother of CNN Jim Acosta of Lady Liberty?
My name is Stephen Miller.
please have you ever been wronged? and if yes how did you know that you were wrong?. I don't know of a religion that allows wrongdoing simply because we are not supposed to judge. There is no religion that does not talk about pointing out once mistakes and helping them become better people. but logic also tells us that until one accepts his or her wrong, there is no way to correct such a person.
I think you do not understand the context.
I understand the context. I am reading the context. It could not be worse than the bad things Hillary did. I made comparisons to help add perspective through contrast and comparison. I might mute people. I know people do bad things. We steal and we murder. Also, people traffick too.
No mate you don't this has nothing to do with debates, what Hillary did or didn't do - your comment is irrelevant and a bit annoying given the circumstances.
@krystle, I disagree. I have an opinion. You have an opinion. My opinion is that you are annoying. Your opinion is that I am annoying. What I said is connected. But you do not care about the connection. You are not listening. You do not care. You are being mean to me. But you say you are right and I am wrong. So, I am the bad man here because you said so. Forget about DRUDGE. Forget about CERNOVICH. You do not care about analogy.
Listen mate I think there is a language barrier here and the last thing you say is your autistic, so maybe that isn't helping things here.
But first and foremost I have not attacked you, I said your comment it annoying not you - there is a big difference, for example you said you thought I was annoying now that is a personal attack.
Perhaps in the future use your words to further explain your view rather than just straight out attack people, you have insulted me on my own thread - you have assumed everything you have said, I have reread your messages several times they don't make sense in regards to this situation.
Then you try and tell my partner I don't like critical thinking, you have so many comments spread out over my post it's hard to keep track.
Please stop, or here's another option try explaining your point of view so others can understand it - this is not an attack but multiple people have said they think you're confused.
Yet I'm a horrible person because I think irrelevant comments are annoying, make your comments relevant - don't lash out and claim to have been attacked.
As with the mute thing below, I thought I was answering a simple question - as I responded to a comment asking if you can unmute, that is all I was referring to and you blast me for that too.
Seriously I am not in the mood for this shit after what has already been happening, if you have no value to add from here on out please go away.
If you want to try and reread my words see that I didn't attack you and explain your position without just listing names and make a full comprehensible point then maybe we can move past this.
If not enjoy your life on steemit.
Ignore this guy. He commented the same shit on my blog after I had been targeted.
I am really confused (or actually not surprised) after his apology yesterday now commenting in true style - lol - if it would not be so sad it could be funny. Look at his comments here and everywhere today..... Some people never learn.
My comments are not irrelevant. I disagree with what you said. You should read what I said. You are hiding behind political correctness. You are dancing with words. You are making up excuses to why my comments were annoying.
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I am adding value. You said that if I am not adding value then I should go away. Who determines value? You said there is a language barrier. My first language is English. Your first language is probably English as well. There might be a communication barrier but not a language barrier. I was born in Oregon. I speak American English. There should be no language barrier but you said there is or might be a language barrier. I am an English teacher in Vietnam since 2012. I have been teaching at schools and camps since 2004. I have the experience. Lots of people love me and know me. I have videos on YouTube.
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What I wrote was good. What I wrote was not annoying. It was helpful. I gave reference. You seem to indicate that I cannot compare your situation with anybody anywhere. I tried to compare. You said my comments were annoying. It is too bad that my contrast and comparisons are viewed as not valuable. You said that if I do not have anything of value to add then I should go away. I believe that what I say has value. I believe that my comments are of value.
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You might be saying that my comments are without value or without enough value and that seems to be what you were implying and that is too bad. You said you want to be tolerant of Muslims perhaps or of some religions and you can be tolerant of my beliefs and my opinions of what I think is or is not of value as well. However, it seems you are not interested in giving tolerance and forgiveness to some people like me maybe.
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The mute question was a long question that I was asking that other man about and then I found a specific answer about the mute list and that is what I wanted and that is what I want you know. I want you to be better organized. Facebook has a block list and Steemit has a mute list. The mute list is convenient because it helps you get to the list of people you mute. If you do not have a mute list and if you mute a lot of people, then it becomes too difficult to find everybody or anybody you may want to unmute someday.
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I am writing good things. I am helping people. You should think about what I am trying to say.
Nothing that you have said is relevant to this post. It appears you are also a spam commenter. Why waste energy in all that typing for nonsensical jargon that in no way relates to the topic. You type like Trump talks and are probably just being annoying. You can shove your religious freedom up your ass. It doesnt give you any rights to say what the fuck you want to people on THEIR posts. The only reason you start shit on this post so you can attack political correctness or the non religious. Im an American and sick of this religious bullying by religious extremists, and it is only gotten worse in 2017.
@joeyarnoldvn you are arguing for the sake of arguing, and not because you hold any serious belief. This is all that comes through in your (lengthy obtuse) comments. Concentrate on your Steemit career and hold the irrelevant comments.
Great reply @krystle
There is a big difference in flagging opposition and having idiots spam attack accounts.
great!!!
I am appalled by this behavior but not surprised, while Steemit can bring out some amazing elements of humanity it also attracts the other extremes, greed(demonstrated by the begging and the occasional IP theft), and hate. It is a sad reality of social media that is even more pronounced and perpetuated here by the financial rewards steemit offers.
STEEM VS. FACEBOOK
Hello Steemians! Could steem crush down Facebook? If only more people would know more about it. That they could earn while they post, while they share their experiences and their ideas on something.
Oh, people! Hear me now and here it is. Let's spread the Good News of STEEM!
Let's unite then...Upvote and resteem.Follow and let's follow one another!
DON'T SPREAD THE HATE PLEASE...!
Some friendly advice: If you would like to achieve success on Steemit you should drop the follow me, follow you or upvote me/upvote you thing. You need to state WHY you think it's a good post and if the person reading the comment likes what you have to say they might follow you. Also a large number of followers don't determine your success on Steemit if they don't actually vote for your stuff and engage in conversation. Some users are also offended by these kind of comments and may flag you, lowering your reputation.
Here is my response.
https://steemit.com/apology/@noganoo/making-amends
Even if it's personal drama or whatever it is, that's just between the parties involved. When you cross a line wishing death upon other people's children, that won't be an acceptable response no matter how you stack it. I hope you guys can resolve your issues without it getting nasty or for you having to form a malicious army to go against the community when it doesn't side with your problems.
I'm sure none of us know the full story, and ultimately it's none of our business. But when we see people being attacked with verbiage on this level it becomes a community issue. I know you want to bring together others that have some sort of hatred for certain people in this community. I know you're looking for more support, but this objective will get us no where in the end. It will cause a lot of confusion, pain, anger and many other useless emotions for no purpose at all but your own satisfaction that you're winning your fight. Even if you win, do you really win though?
I truly hope you come to terms or some sort of peace with yourself about the situation. I know how shitty it can feel to be wronged. For that I am truly sorry @noganoo, sorry you feel that something you supported betrayed you. I wish this upon no person. I wish this to never happen to me. I know we can never understand how you feel, but the best way to do that is express it in a way we can relate to.
Sadly, @noganoo only has empathy for himself. Your words do you credit but they are wasted on him. Our resources are better spent supporting those who are clearly, demonstrably worth every second.
Most of the time when people are to these extremes there is no talking with them. Nothing can change their stance. We just have to at least give them a chance. Even if they disregard it, hopefully it keeps a subconscious tally of moments of unconditional support. Eventually it may be enough for them to reflect on their actions with some empathy for others. I think if we don't try, we have failed him and helped him fail himself.
@noganoo has failed himself and to allow his failure to continue to harm other innocents would be our failure. All I care about at this point is peacefully showing @ausbitbank and @krystle in no uncertain terms that they are not dealing with this alone and that they are cherished and valued and they they can rely on this community when the chips are down. They've earned it. Who they are and what they represent is abundantly clear. I hope @noganoo stops, develops some empathy and a new approach, goes away or is shunned to complete ineffectiveness. Right now, shunning seems the only effective means we have and it requires a community response.
Thank you so much, I just don't understand why he went after me and the kids we have nothing to do with him - I really have tried to steer clear of these types of posts and behaviour in general.
But hearing you say this -
Made me a little teary, his threats and attacks have provoked us to respond in this manner and now we look like the bad ones flagging him - I just don't know what else to do, I can't sit by and let him post images of my children with lies about them.
It was so cruel and the thing is he meant to do this, he searched and stole the image then took the time to write the post - then drop by my posts and threaten me and so many others.
I have no idea what the solution is when people behave like this, but surely free speech shouldn't mean your words have no consequence - say what you want, but you can't control how people will react to them.
Thanks for your support, it really means a lot.
You certainly have not responded in kind! Don't give your reaction to him a moment's thought. What he's done to you is an outrage. Your reactions were perfectly understandable. You had no choice whatsoever but to expose his malice. The only community on this platform worth being a part of is the one that can see and act and is prepared, however regretfully, to get their hands dirty, for you, to protect you. Perhaps @noganoo is being sincere with his apology this time, I don't really care. I'm glad he's given you both the unequivocal recognition you deserve. I'm glad, for now, that he may improve his behaviour, but I will not trust him. Anyone prepared to say those things just to get a rise, to damage people so horrendously just to satisfy their own sickness, no way, that is a scorpion. I don't wish scorpions any harm, but I don't invite them into my house, I don't make friends with them. So chin up my friend! ;) Put it all behind you. Now he's given you the opportunity, shut the door and mute. You've got much more valuable things to be thinking about and doing ;) Give those beautiful and fantastic kids of yours a bear hug from me!
I completely agree with you. The only thing is if we make the lines completely drawn it's just going to exacerbate this whole thing. The community will come together and right now he's on a rally to recruit people to go against all of this. I'm saying this will divide us, when it should unite us to resolve something that has become vulgar.
The community should respond, but not with hostility.
@benjojo ^^^ read @naganoo 's edited comment.
I hope he's being sincere this time.
We just have to support this decision until we find out otherwise. It was nice to meet you though @benjojo
I just don't understand what I ever did to him, besides ignore him when he started attacking @ausbitbank - I have always stayed silent and then to have this happen, I just can't justify the bs.
@krystle, I feel furious! I read your whole post and then all the comments right down till the end. And believe me, my blood is boiling. I'm with you. It doesn't matter if my child is an autistic genius, is 'normal', or is mentally challenged. As a Mom, I have a natural duty to protect my children, and I would on principle look down upon anybody, and burn to the ground, anybody who fights his battle by throwing rocks at my children to hurt me or my husband.
I'm relatively new at Steemit. And I remember voting for @ausbitbank's witness just last week because I was impressed with his selflessness and generosity towards others at Steemit. I'm sad to see this happening now. And it is a shame that the occasion of your reaching a 1000 followers is marred by this degenerate's actions.
What facilities do we have for repairing this? I see we have no police system and no mechanism to reveal the face of the depraved person hiding shamelessly under the cloak of anonymity. Or do we? I'm also wondering if disabling that person's movements altogether can be another option? Akin to putting him under house arrest. Can somebody disable all the fields on his blog which might ever enable him to raise his voice or to command his bots again? If he's left without any ammunition, he can no longer disturb the peace. Why let him spam and then flag him? Why not cut off his steam before he starts inflating again?
Enjoyed the response. I believe and back freedom of speech 100% but some people lack the moral fiber and couth to actually have a say. Yep, he crossed a line. Good thing he's an armchair blabbermouth behind a CPU screen cause where I'm from if it had been in person he'd have had his teeth put through the back of his head.