DON’T ASK, JUST KISS HER, AND OTHER THINGS I LEARNED IN HIGH SCHOOL

in #writing7 years ago

The first time I kissed a girl was awkward. Actually, the first time I kissed a girl, it was at a skating rink, I was in 7th grade and an 8th grader shoved her tongue so far down my throat, it ruined my kissing technique for years.

But the SECOND time I kissed a girl was after my first date. I had asked her out to dinner, junior year of high school. And when I took her home, I walked her to her door. We stood there making awkward high school small talk for a few minutes before I realized I was supposed to do something. It’s at that moment I questioned my permissions, and asked, “Can I kiss you?” Simple enough right?

No.

She said, “Don’t ask, just kiss me.” At that time in my life, it was a lesson well learned. Don’t look, just leap. Don’t hesitate. No Fear. All of that. Now, I had been raised to respect women from my sister and mother, so it was built in, but from that day forward, when I felt the urge to kiss a girl, I went for it.

And then the world moved on it’s axis and the idea of express consent has become a much more prevalent issue. I mean in the early 2000’s there were plenty of jokes about “carding a girl at you bedroom door” to make sure the babe you brought home was “legal” and not “jail bait.” Har har har, right? But asking? Not so much.

Look, I don’t want to come off sounding like some MAGA douche that feels like I just can’t do anything right anymore, and I’m totally a victim and all that shit. But it does bring up an interesting concern about how men and women interact in the modern dating scene. Getting consent from a lover to move from kissing to frisking, to mouth play, vaginal intercourse, and from there maybe onto the more fringe practices like upside down rope play feet tickling or whatever.

But do we really need to have a full 50 SHADES OF GREY deal memo prepared and get advanced consent for every changing position?

Do you need permission to ask a girl out before you even ask her out?

Is it toxic masculinity to put my hand on a girl’s leg or follow her to her front door for a goodnight kiss with out asking absolute permission first?

I seriously get that plenty of aggressive guys are going so far in the opposite direction, making a woman feel uncomfortable or outright forcing them to do things they don’t want to do through manipulation or worse threats of violence… but for good guys, guys who love their mother’s and understand that when a woman wants something she’ll enjoy it even more; how do you make sure you get the consent you need?

What do you think? Are non-verbal cues enough?

Must you ask at each step along the way?

Do you just go for the kiss and apologize later?

Ladies, speak up and tell me.



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I have not yet kiss any girl. But I heard from my friend that its a nice experience and some of us do understand the situation and some guys say that it is a bad thing.
Well thanks dear @writesbackwards to share your experience with us

Lol..... I love this topic; it sounds extremely familiar and i get to remember the good old days from high school

I'm a guy but personally I think the chemistry will tell u whether you can go for the kiss or not. And even when your instincts turns out to be wrong and she turns down the kiss, she might have her reason but the next time she will either initiate herself or simply let u go ahead with it depending on how comfortable she is with in that moment in time.
A clue I can suggest whenever your skeptical about whether to go for the kiss or not, is to simply give her a soft and sweet romantic peck on the cheek. She might find that even more romantic than an actual kiss. ❤️❤️❤️

I hope... It was good experience..dear @writesbackwards

Oi!

Do you need permission to ask a girl out before you even ask her out?

  • haha lol no? Just do it. The worst what can happen to you is she just says no? And then what? Move on.

Is it toxic masculinity to put my hand on a girl’s leg (YES & NO) ...not a fan if no signs given... If she is touchy too and you will see if she likes you then please go for it?

...or follow her to her front door for a goodnight kiss with out asking absolute permission first?
-Well you hopefully got some messages during the date and a feel for how it went? You will just feel if it's right for her or not. If she gives you a hug and turns her head to the side, that's clearly a sign to GO AWAY, if she just looks at your and is waiting... well then go for it :-D

I don't really get why this is such a big deal? :-D

Maybe you think too much :) Mwah :-*

pleasure will be achieved if the romance, and romantic it came not because of coercion, love women as love our mother.
actually understanding without coercion will be beautiful.
Thanks

Hahaha good lesson about kissing...

Very interesting topic. And you are right, prior conventions no longer come into play. I think men are going to just have to work harder to KNOW the woman they are dating before "moving to the next base." Most times, if the girl wants to ramp things up, you'll be able to tell. And, rather than feeling like you must stop, back up against the wall, and ask a formal question, I'm guessing a real look into her eyes, coupled with a soft "Ok?" will usually suffice.

Nice topic hahaha if a girl likes you, comfortable with you and the mood asks for it then go for it! The body cues and your instincts will tell you if it's a yes or no but don't forget to be a gentleman! :)

Good article, it's very true that all of the push towards getting consent for every step of romance is ultimately the death of romance.