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RE: Dtubesnap: Can we have views rather than upvotes on dtube platform? This will enhance the participation of contributors on the platform.

in #vlog6 years ago

I'm 100% against introducing view counts on DTube.

  1. It is not easy to do this in a 100% decentralized manner (having Steem accounts to broadcast a tx every time they watch a video here will screw up their resource credits for new users especially - but wait... what about users who are NOT logged in?). If this is actually done, every page refresh will count as a view and it can be abused easily (that's what happened to YouTube before they switched their algorithm to favour watch time). Which leads us to the 2nd point...

  2. To prevent the above system to be abused, a) algorithms need to be built to filter illegitimate views (which is impossible to do it in a decentralized way), or b) track the average view duration (total watch time divided by number of views). Again this is not easy to track (maybe impossible) in a decentralized manner (you wouldn't want to spam the Steem blockchain and drain your RC by submitting a tx every few seconds while watching a video).

  3. I prefer not to see if anyone is watching my videos at all, or how people are watching them. On YouTube where I have a lot of analytical data, I can get very disappointed when the analytics don't look good which happens to me all the time until I abandon YouTube completely for DTube, where the number of upvotes, and the payout is the only known performance data. I will always be happy that someone is giving me upvotes that is worth something and not worry about views at all, rather than having views data that can discourage me from posting if the view counts are not good enough to me.

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I see your point, but analytics is the only way to tell whether or not people think you suck or are good. And thus analytics is the only true path to improvement.

If you're fine not knowing whether or not your videos are complete garbage, that's you. But I'd rather know what makes a good video and what doesn't.

When I saw your reply, I wanted to send you all my savings in cryptocurrency, haha!
You're fantastic and you understand my argument! 👍💪💯

I think some form of analytics would be beneficial overall to content creators. While the up votes are great and I want to keep earning those I would love to know if/that people are still watching my videos despite the up votes too.

Thank you for your analysis on the view aspect of the YouTube videos, but my point is not to eradicate the upvotes count but to introduce the views count in order to determine what video or content stays on the most watched/trending page of dtube platform.
It is really sad to see some contents on dtube platform get upvoted due to some factors and in the technical aspect of it the vlog doesn't worth it. (Nb: posting a video on dtube is not an automatic guarantee for upvote).
Nevertheless, this shit happens because the community (we, content creators and contributors) isn't at the helm of deciding which video(s) deserve the most views. If views are implemented on the platform, it will eradicate such menace and make the curation work for dtube much easier.

I prefer not to see if anyone is watching my videos at all, or how people are watching them. On YouTube where I have a lot of analytical data, I can get very disappointed when the analytics don't look good which happens to me all the time until I abandon YouTube completely for DTube, where the number of upvotes, and the payout is the only known performance data. I will always be happy that someone is giving me upvotes that is worth something and not worry about views at all, rather than having views data that can discourage me from posting if the view counts are not good enough to me.

I checked your profile on dtube and I was shocked you could say this?
Really?, you haven't understand the basic principle that exist on this blockchain. Let's delve into the writing content, why do you think people boost their post/contents?
I will let you answer that, but I quite understand that there are several rationale but the most important reason is for VISIBILITY. Meanwhile, on the dtube platform, visibility equals to VIEWS not the cash. So, if you are not interested in people's feedback, why create a content, a vlog or blog initially?
I don't think you have a good point here my friend. Cheers!