Rebuttal: Vaccination Fascism Takes Another Vicious Turn... Over Measles!

in #vaccines6 years ago (edited)

Ever heard the saying the pot calling the kettle black. Those calling out fascism are expressing fascism themselves. Hence the colloquialism. Depending on your platform you may or may not see responses to some of the diatribes as authors mute people simply for not ascribing to their point of view. Mostly because we question the crap they post. I want to make sure that the fascists don't block the valid comments or rebuttals and that everyone can see them.

Vaccination Fascism Takes Another Vicious Turn... Over Measles!

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You say things here that I do not read or listen to elsewhere, which is great, and I support you.

Could you provide sources or pages that I can visit to be informed about this topic? I refer to the arguments of the anti-vaccination movement.

I have heard about anti-vaccination, but except for the distrust of the government, something totally valid, I do not understand this political discussion very well, I would like to know all the arguments, but what I find in google is very basic, pages where they satirize the arguments of anti-vaccination, and I would like to read the arguments starting from the main source.

Thanks!

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I guess as long as the deaths are not in my back yard it's all good. Too bad for all those, approx 100,000 people a year, mostly children under five, that die from measles - each year. They should have been born in a country that had a 90% + immunization rate. It didn't happen here, nothing to see, it's just a non-life threatening childhood illness. Can't wait for polio to make a come back, that was a fun non-life threatening childhood illness. I guess polio ran its course because I don't see any polio cases anymore - Anyone holding a polio-party? Anyone?

They had to hide the fact really, really deep that the Kentucky infections were due to "improper storage and handling of the vaccine." Who knew it had to be handled properly. The health provider stopped using the vaccine once they found out there were handling issues... sounds pretty logical, no cover up needed.

Let's unpact the risk of seizures and compare it to the risk of dieing from measles (yes that's right - people die from measles - but not in my backyard.)

  • approx. 3.64 million U.S. children are vaccinated with a first dose of MMR every year which results in about 5,700 seizure, that's a rate of 0.0016 or 0.16 percent.
    OK, so lets say the following
  • approx. 24.4 million children (between 6-11); assume non of them are vaccinated (big win for you) BUT lets say a low rate of infection; 50% of them become infected with measles, that means approx 24,000 deaths (0.2% death rate. - there is an error in the death rates on their response to the original article.)
  • Feberial seizure are usually caused by a fever in a body that can not regulate itself - measles has a seizure (with or without fever) rate reported in 0.6%–0.7% of cases..... oh, wait... 3.64 million, times 0.6%... naw, that can't be right. err, better hide that number it doesn't support the cause celeb.

And there is no report by Miller in the British Journal of Medicine - What you are referencing is Miller's, COMMENT, on an original article about government funding to non-profits supporting clear and proper vaccine information. Let me know if you want the actual article. I can pull it from the BMJ.

I guess as long as it doesn't happen in my backyard it's all OK, but what if it does?

I will not mute anyone based on their opinion or position. If you have a differing opinion let's hear it. Asking a legitimate question about a post is hardly grounds to mute someone. If you have legit comments on vaccine posts and the author has muted you let me know.

You can also turn off the option in some platforms like Steempeak.

But hey, do what you want.


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even if you don't work for big pharma, which most would highly doubt, your constant support of vaccines could hardly be described as normal and healthy.

have you done any research into the families who have had deaths and maiming, mental illness and all kinds of horrible effects from vaccines?
do you deny all of these cases, or that the government paid out on many of the them?
are you saying there are no side-effects or potentially serious problems with vaccines?

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