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RE: Witness Vote Removed: @nextgencrypto. It’s a Shame that Some Individuals are Flagging Content for Mere Difference of Opinion.
So, I also think down voting people for posting information you don't agree with is shitty and infantile. Any other way to kick back, though? For those of us down here at the bottom, we're basically resigned to watching the sparks atop mount Olympus. You can go and down vote his stuff, but maybe that's an infantile response. In any case, it seems I can do nothing, which is doubly frustrating since we're talking about vaccines which I've been fighting ignorant attitudes on for almost 20 years. Is it so horrible to want them to be safer? I'm so tired of assholes. Just tired.
I hear you. It is EXTREMELY tiring.
That said, defensive retaliatory flagging is totally legitimate, in my view.
What I hope folks won’t do is beg for more regulations or attempt to make Steemit something mirroring a statist government in the interest of “fairness.” That would ruin the platform and destroy it, economically.
This can go three ways, as I see it:
Those with the power to kick back, whether an individual or groups of individuals, take action and blackball this user.
This user and those of his ilk basically take over, killing conversation/expression on the platform and thus driving the market elsewhere (killing Steemit).
Users request centralized regulations and stray from sound economics and stake-weighting, resulting in corruption and lackluster content due to hyper-regulation. This also would kill the platform.
Actually, as @dbroze ‘s post is already back up to 24 dollars, the market is speaking. It’s fucking beautiful. This “whale” can keep draining all his funds while we keep reinstating the poster and reaping curation rewards. He earns nothing, as he himself has said, from flagging. He’s just working himself into a hole, ultimately.
I don't recall discussing this with you, but I noted that a couple times you have mentioned that delinking stake from VP would harm the platform.
Since this is the ONLY thing that can secure the witnesses from being essentially bought by someone with deep enough pockets, and taking over the Steem blockchain itself, I am a strong advocate of delinking SP from VP.
I know this is a segue, but I am most interested in hearing what reasons you have for your position. In my conversations with Stinc, top witnesses, and 'influencers', on and off chain, I have not been convinced that I am wrong.
I want to be, or be able to be more certain I am right.
If you feel this segue doesn't belong here, I would be happy to discuss the matter at the time and place of your choosing.
Thanks!
No problem. Thanks for your comment.
Yeah, as the whole platform, from its inception, has been a stake-weighted voting platform, changing that would indeed destroy Steemit as we know it.
The whole idea is that the vestors and bloggers who have invested the most, or blogged hard and worked hard to earn the most Steem Power, have the most say.
Should these “top dogs” engage in market action detrimental to the platform, they are ultimately harming their own investment, as such actions would drastically decrease—or destroy altogether—any hope for a real ROI.
This model also allows for less powerful Steemians to work hard, network, and gain power, as well.
If we take away the very foundation of what Steemit is, which is stake-weighted voting, it becomes basically like any other social media site (save the blockchain aspect) where power holders are decided arbitrarily and governance is more centralized. Math and economics no longer fill the rule of objective order-keeper, but instead are replaced by this or that individuals’s arbitrary judgements about what is “good” or “bad.”
As such, individual Steemians lose autonomy and the ability to progress independently and make a niche for themselves, as they have no real fair say in the rules of the game.
As it stands now, if someone is unhappy about stake-weighted voting, they may choose to find a new platform with what they deem to be a better model. This would be a market signal to Steemit that there is a problem. One that, if not heeded and diagnosed, could potentially be the end of the platform.
I saw @dbroze's post and noticed it was at decent earnings, and I do like that. I'm glad that people are willing to give their Steem to support him and also wage this battle. I think it's probably more productive than flagging wars. Like I said, though, it's still a bit like watching the sparks on mount Olympus. Still, appreciate people like you and @canadiancoconut fighting the good fight.
You are right. I want people to have the same chance I had when I joined to work hard and climb that mountain in a spirit of general support. This BS does not help, and is alienating new users, it would seem.
I am a new user AND I am a licensed medical professional. There are so many things I want to reveal on Steemit about the medical establishment that I am very hesitant because of people like bsanders.
People have no idea how much BS there are in the medical world and the shady practices in clinics and hospitals.
People also don't understand that most of what we ARE taught in med school are not even considered when we practice medicine except those doctors that think independently and remember their foundations.
Please do post it!
Just be sure to drop me a link to it on Discord or Steemit.chat, so that it will be sure to get enough votes that Bernie can't make it invisible.
I am still learning Steem and I have not tried Discord or Steemit.chat. Do you need to register first?
Yes. I would recommend Discord. You must create an account. You can use this link and once signed up, search for canadian.coconut
https://discord.gg/Zu8vgf
It makes me want to stop wasting my time there are other platforms where I can share my story. That big fat whale must have worked for BIG PHARMA for have serious mental health issues and is on their drugs.
I was thinking the same earlier when I saw you got flagged and some others as well for vaccine related stories. You'd almost think it's a government paid shill who comes in and flags content that might maybe expose some truths.
Some people will sell their soul for money, you may have just hit the nail on the head. I feel sorry for anyone who attacks others especially when they are down.
@marymg2014 the problem is that most of those who scream the hardest that it's all lies, that we're all believing conspiracy theories and google truths etc. have truly done NO research at all. They immediately start yelling that they believe the CDC and studies done in regards to vaccines etc. but they only believe what they're told and haven't really put any work into it at all. It's a shame that this attacking is happening here the way it is now, because that's really not far from how things are handled on Facebook and I don't think anyone is here for that. What gets me the most is that it seems to be done 'just because they can'. But in cases like that, it is great to see there are still people who can make things right and will do so.
Amen!
I so agree! So many screaming are totally uneducated. What's stunning to me is how much worse this conversation has gotten over the years. When my 19 yo was a baby, people just said we were weird. Now we're dangerous, abusive criminals.
You are quackery. Nothing you posted has any basis in medicine. NONE.
Can’t wait until @berniesanders batteries recharge.
Please don't get discouraged by annoying flies, birds or thugs. I learned to take my time and save my works on my harddrive - and then spread it to a multitude of other platforms. Your thoughts are worth spreading! Yet first back-up. Then spread from a saver position. m2c
Image credits: Andreas Bohnenstengel, Licence CC BY-SA 3.0 DE, found at the German Wikipedia page on "Diversity (politics)"
Thank you for the advice.
Yes it is. And I can say this is always what comes up for me in zero regulation conversations. I want the market to regulate, but there's always some dick cheese with a lot of power who wants nothing more than to fuck people over simply because he can. Here's somebody just posting info, worked hard to get it and write it, and some asshole gets to pull out his magic wand. It just feels like a microcosm to me.
You may be onto something there, because as long as the monopoly on violence outside of this platform exists, this platform will always be threatened by individuals with resources from that entity, namely, government.
It’s an experiment. I hope people won’t fail to understand that they are the market. There are those aware with enough funds to fight back. And others can band together. Smaller users may eventually leave out of frustration (I hope to God they won’t), but even in that case, the market will have worked perfectly. The platform will fail, and then the investments of the abusive parties are dead as well. Sad, but fair. And real.
This is just one dude with some cash, though, as far as I can tell. This place is full of stubborn bastards who are in it to win it. I wouldn’t give up yet.
I'm not gonna give up. It's not in my nature. And I'll say whatever I wanna say, bullies with money be damned. I'm pigheaded like that. I understand we're the market, but when people have crazy money, which equals power in our world, there's so much potential for danger. I agree with you that regulations ruin it, but I don't feel like we have a good solution yet. How many things do we let them ruin? How many people do we let them stomp on? In any case this little microcosm is fascinating.
Wah wah wah. You shook Beta.
I really like your comment SSM, so I upped it and am now following. My article on vaccines last week was constantly disappearing from my blog page and it was driving me crazy, along with posts I did to raise awareness on Monsanto. Censorship on Steemit sucks.
Thanks. We just keep showing up and speaking up, right?