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RE: Steem.Organic? Thanks but no thanks!
Trending is full of junk and posts from this account are really not adding much value. The fact that they get hardly any interaction may be a sign that nobody with sense looks at Steemit Trending. The versions on Palnet and other 'tribes' may have better signal to noise.
We all know trending is nothing to do with quality, but it is still what new users will see first. Having rewards of hundreds of dollars gives a very false impression of what can actually be expected.
The bots are not going away unless HF21 makes them even less profitable.
Of course the irony of promoting a post about 'organic' posts with bots did not go unnoticed.
We can make them less profitable. We can make them more expensive to use. At some point it's going to come down to the realization that ALL bid bot use is bid bot abuse and will not be tolerated. That takes mobilisation of the anti abuse community, and education of the ignorant masses who assume because it is built on steem, it's a beneficial feature of steem. It's reasonable enough to wait for the outcome of the HF to see if behaviour changes. But beyond that there needs to be a strategy to fight them. I dont subscribe to the notion that they will always be around and we must kowtow to them and their massive SP out of fear of reprisal. It's going to take a large collective effort because when they inevitably lash out, they do so against as many honest actors as possible. When they do that, the fence sitters with clout will realize how much of a perverted system they've passively watched infect the ecosystem, and they will act.
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^ 💯 this
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Totally NOT that. Not all bidbot use is abuse in fact it is often one of the rare and real reasons to purchase steem.
It is hard to take the downvoting movement seriously if it is going to be anchored in absolutisms and people making up unreasonable rules and trying to enforce them on others.
And those who say such things are almost never anyone who have bought or paid for anything here ever.
that does matter, because that isn't really who we want to attract.
Really? Because my cointracking says I purchased 34k steem out of the total 35k steem that I hold. Was planning too keep accumulating to 50k.
I guess that makes me an actual steem investor huh?
You are in a way telling us the demand for steem and price is low is because not enough people are bidding on bots? So tell me, how much bid bot demand do we need? In your ideal world, how long do I need to be scrolling down through bought and paid for garbage before I hit the real stuff?
The price for steem and demand is low because steem has a poor reputation, this is in large part because of the EXISTENCE OF BOTS. I like Steem because it is one of the few blockchains with actual use cases, while a bunch of vaporware shit gets bidded up into the stratosphere.
What are these bot owners doing with their returns, powering them up out of altruism?
And your reasoning is that not enough people are bidding up their posts... okay.
I did not say not enough people are botting up their posts.
you jumped into a whole lot of word twisting and assumptions.
So only you hold the patent on making assumptions?
And I thought we were taking things to their logical conclusion.
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@whatsup,
Give me 1 good reason why promotion isn't exclusively achieved in the front end vs using the trending or hot algorithms?
Hint: There is no good reasonother than cha-ching! 💲
They are a vestigial structure of the #oldsteem and I am surprised we are not on the same page there.
Vote selling is something that serves the seller, the buyer and the handful of ppl that have their hand in the cookie jar. It doesn't serve the interest of adoption.
Cha ching... um, give me one good reason why most people or anyone would hold steem if no one was allowed to earn money?
It's always people who pretend to not care about money, who don't want others to earn money.
If I hold Steem Power and I don't want to curate, why shouldn't I have the right to allocate it any way I want to?
When I can't and it is a parade of improverished people fighting over scraps you will not find me here. :) Sorry if that is too real.
There is NOTHING wrong with responsibily earning money, the problem is the lack of clean up and curation.
Because doing so takes money out of my hand.
Steem is a commons.
Some folks have enough stake to make steem unattractive to everybody else.
That is what they have been doing literally for years, now.
Why you are victim shaming us?
Nobody is worried about @whatsup using her stake as she sees fit, but who is going to buy in to give @ned more?
I contend that the price gives us that answer.
Until ned slakes his greed, we are a shitcoin.
A penny stock.
Maybe we rise from the ashes, maybe the wind blows us away.
For unknown thousands of years investors have been making money by increasing the value of the investment vehicles they purchase. This is called capital gains.
I recommend capital gains as an incentive for investors. I expect that few seasoned investors are very interested in buying Steem and then financially manipulating the rewards pool via curation rewards to become profiteers.
Because that's what that is: profiteering, and it reduces the value of the business and the investement vehicle, in our case Steem. You can see the fruit of that business model from the ninjaminers today. Our marketcap is declining, our token is devaluing, and our users/market is shrinking.
I'm agin' it.
I absolutely agree they don't want to and shouldn't have to curate.... Like any investor there is a cost of doing business, delegate it or hire someone...
You make excellent points, but the ponzi thing is getting us no where.
Flagged for talking to this piece i trashoney -A
even though i think i saw u talking shit to him, so that is good!
Sorry i’m just flagging your rewards like you flag everyone else's! I think your comments are overpaid! imho!
You're free to do as you will.
Would request you show me where SFR flagged inappropriately. We have abuse categories so, if someone gets flagged, there is a reason behind it.
We don't flag willy nilly or to be dicks contrary to what you may think or heard from our adversaries.
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U r full of junk in da trunk bitch!