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RE: I thought Steem blockchain represented freedom and anarchy? I guess I was wrong.

in #ungrip5 years ago (edited)

He was not flagged because of opinion and I don't agree with flagging for opinion either. I wasn't even the one who flagged him.

Bid bots are here, they are not going anywhere and I'm one of the select few that care about preventing them being used for garbage and do more than any other to enforce that. If I stopped running a bid bot, the situation would be worse than it is now that SP would be handed to another bid bot owner who doesn't give a shit.

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Kinder, gentler votebots is not a solution to bots voting. For a metaphor that really sinks this idea home, have a read at 'The Seventh Rapist', regarding prison rape. Kinder, gentler rapists aren't the solution to the problem of prison rape either.

I didn't flag OP either. I have to say I find your statement that you don't agree with opinion flagging disingenuous, as I have seen what I was certain were opinion flags you've flown on multiple occasions. I'll also note certain of your associations strongly indicate support for opinion flagging. I do concede you've not flagged me for it, despite motivation.

I didn't flag OP either. I have to say I find your statement that you don't agree with opinion flagging disingenuous, as I have seen what I was certain were opinion flags you've flown on multiple occasions.

Proof or bullshit.

I'll also note certain of your associations strongly indicate support for opinion flagging.

Why because I did a curation project with him? Bullshit as well.

"Proof or bullshit."

I reckon you are better able to dig through steemd than I. Perhaps you have strange ideas about what is spam, and have convinced yourself that you were countering spam. Even if I spent time looking back, in such case all I'd do is waste both our time.

If you're not going to opinion flag from here on out, good. I wish you'd address how bots voting degrades humanity, and being less rapine about it isn't solving the problem.

I never opinion flag, it's not something I'm starting from here on out. Seems very odd you accuse me of it yet have no proof or too lazy to come up with some "example" of it.

Nothing I can do about bot voting, linear rewards opened that door and I don't see it stopping when 90% of the bot owners are AFK.

Either you aren't being honest about your motivations for flying the flags you've flown, or have mentally blocked them out, or have convinced yourself you flew them for other reasons. Handing you a list of flags won't prove anything, and all I can base my opinion on is what I can see. I can't see what's in your head. I can't prove your motivation no matter how hard I try. I've said I was convinced you flew flags for what appeared to me to be personal dislike or disagreement on opinion, and I can't prove to you what was in my head either. Speaking of appearances...

"Nothing I can do about bot voting..."

Says the bidbot owner. Do you even grasp the vapidity of that claim?

Either you aren't being honest about your motivations for flying the flags you've flown, or have mentally blocked them out, or have convinced yourself you flew them for other reasons. Handing you a list of flags won't prove anything, and all I can base my opinion on is what I can see. I can't see what's in your head. I can't prove your motivation no matter how hard I try. I've said I was convinced you flew flags for what appeared to me to be personal dislike or disagreement on opinion, and I can't prove to you what was in my head either. Speaking of appearances...

So bullshit.

Everyone I flag is for spam/abuse/harassment.

Says the bidbot owner. Do you even grasp the vapidity of that claim?

I explained it earlier, I am the best bot owner you will find. I flag spam, I prevent shit being voting on, I proactively spend thousands of hours finding and stopping shit. If I stopped, the SP would go to another bid bot owner that doesn't care. So you would be worse off than you are now.

If there was a way to get rid of all bid bots and make trending 100% organic and authentic, I'd be all for it. Even before when bid bots didn't exist, It was all sold votes and circle jerks. Now it is public, transparent, and fair.

  1. you are the worse bit-bot owner , you have secret blacklist which you use to ambush unsuspecting users and steal their money . that is what happened with @fulltimegeek and others
  2. you are flagging low SP people randomly in order to increase your bid-bots vote value . proof for that is you did not use a single flag against bernie and we all know what he does here . so stop pretending you care about platform because you dont . scum

Harshly worded, but essentially factually correct on both events.

"Now it is public, transparent, and fair."

Do you even read what you write? LOL

Bots degrade humanity. I am not interested in a kinder, gentler degradation.

I pointed out that I have observed you flagging on posts I was present on, and my recollection of those events was that you stated you were flagging for personal reasons, not because the post or comment was spam, plagiarism, or overvalued. You challenge me to dig through the thousands of flags you've thrown to cite those specific examples, and that's an unreasonable challenge which would be nothing more than a waste of time.

Remember @drugwars? You threw some flags because of that. I was there, and I don't care if you deny it, don't remember it, or are lying. Neither do I need to live in your head to have my recollection of what I witnessed.

"If there was a way to get rid of all bid bots and make trending 100% organic and authentic, I'd be all for it."

That is factually incorrect, because there is a way to do so, and I've posted it onchain. All that is necessary is to prevent profiteering. You'll never agree to that, because you're a profiteer. I don't even care if you're a kinder, gentler profiteer, degrading humanity with a soft caress.

Profiteering destroys investment vehicles, and investing for capital gains builds them. When you stop profiteering, your words will have value, because your actions will. Until then you're extracting value from the platform that decreases the value of the investment vehicle, and nothing you say will change that action.

I never threw flags because of Drug Wars, you are full of shit. Bernie did, I did not.

This conversation has turned pointless so I'm going to step out.