The Trust in Trustless...
In a world where code is law, you have to have safety measures in place to audit and review the code and ensure it is good and also safe.
Several witnesses are saying they fear rejecting code and losing votes.
Although I acknowledge it is true, I also have zero respect for that position. In addition, it means there is no way to protect the chain from bad code either by accident or hacked code slipped in by bad actors.
Basically it says, I do not take my responsibilities seriously, I know I can't do the job, but I am going to accept money for it anyway.
While I acknowledge we survived the hardfork, my confidence in the system is bruised. I am not sure how to trust the system going forward.
I'm still processing, I don't take issue with new technology breaking, and I believe that the team is dedicated to fix what is broken.
Not making any rash decisions, but once in a while you have to acknowledge weak points in the system.
Please don't feel like you have to vote to comment... Let's hear your thoughts.
@whatsup,
Coding should be tested before added to the live environment! Anyway, I hope they will fix all bugs soon! Only dedication is needed!
Cheers~
I'm not upset about the bugs. I'm concerned that our witnesses are copping out on their responsibility in what just happened.
Yes, you are absolutely correct. They shouldn't implement an interchange package or HF (however they want to call it) without testing it first, to know that'll work as intended. How are witnesses get to be witnesses anyways? I voted some and I don't even know them at all. Now, I'm thinking of re-evaluating.
Why do you think witnesses have the best interest of the user in mind?
Test RC Cost creating Comment. WTF!!! EDIT!!!
Well let's say someone who worked at Steem was really jealous of Ned's hair.
Day after day looking at Ned's hair wore the guy down. So, he writes some code to smash up the chain, to spite the perfect hair.
Our witnesses are stating loud and clear, they do not read the code, they do not see themselves as the gatekeepers. That equals no confidence. I really don't care how or why.
Hilarious Ned's Hair... lol
Hmmm, Agreed, and a new way to deal with it. Don't care about how and why. Thx....
The system is not working if the 'okay' that comes from witnesses is based on fear... Of losing votes. I don't know for sure that's the case, but it might be.
It frustrates me that I want to vote for witnesses and take that quite seriously but now feel this huge need to organize a press conference where the witnesses can answer questions to the community :-) Because 'we the community' have to scrape our information from so many places and so many places are not even accessible to us... I mean, what discussions have been held behind the scenes? Who had what opinion? I recently got a message from a (smaller) witness why I had removed the witness vote - I told this witness I just was confused after some things that happened and was now basing my votes on what I could actually see and not on what I thought people were doing.
I knew this witness might be doing right but it just was not visible and I need more visibility.
But then again, I didn't remove all the votes of all the witnesses I had doubts about, because well, I'm just super unsure of so many things :-)
I feel the need for a more open witness platform with discussions like Politicians do when they are running for president or towards other elections. I know there are a few of these happening on but at times like these I need them every week until the big release is launched. Just a 'state your opinion on the following issue'... kind of format and each witness in the top xx states their opinion in 1 minute max or something.
Okay, this comment might get too big for the available Mana I have :P Joking. I have no finalized opinion, but just some random thoughts I wanted to share.
I also need to remove my witness votes and start over. I'm not sure why I am delaying it.
In any case, I have a pretty decent share of stake, but my votes are meaningless at the level of top 20 witnesses.
You know about the .02 payout threshold right?
I'm glad things are back to normal I guess? It sucks for the people who were at 100% voting power and lost it because of bad code.
I don't care about the inconvenience factor... Roads get torn up before they get replaced. It is part of growth.
What I am much more concerned about is the witnesses throwing stones at SteemIt Inc and not seeming to understand this is their job.
Yep. I think a lot of witness votes should be removed. If you find a good developer that can program the blockchain let me know so I can vote for them for witness. I have voted for yabapmatt and timcliff like you did.
it is a bit worrisome and while i had hope, my gut instinct on all of this was not for the positive. it makes me wonder what was the real purpose to all of this?
alone, naked and afraid ... right now ... ok maybe not alone, back to SS for me.
haha... Well, I'm okay with things breaking, but everyone pointing fingers doesn't work.
i agree ... does not work ... tho i am going to delete some of my votes ... LOL
I'm just happy to see you in my feed again @whatsup <3 xo
:) I'm happy we are still here also. Whew!
Honestly, witness's fear of losing vote for speaking out is exactly opposite of what decentralization is supposed to do. Being part of this hf made me realize how immature this space is. No accountability whatsoever.
The events were scary, the reaction shocked me into caring about some things I hadn't been concerned about.
same
political motivations borked a lot of things it seems, honestly though on so much there was no trust from my end to begin with. What I do trust and see isn't about so much the top of the pyramid which releases a one sentence or two sentence statement which is absolutely showing to me a lack of giving a damn about really any of us including those who are dolphin level and above and have in good faith put money into it.
it's us
we are the ones who can ultimately sway more than is realized and that can turn out a lot of different ways. imho
Did you wait 15 minutes to self upvote or did you "donate" to the rewards pool? lol
I didn't wait, I just push buttons..... if it donates I honestly don't give a shit lol
going to yank back and forth for fun
test, not sorry for self uv either...but I did 2% on this and unless was same time and not showing was 1 or 2 cents , I self uv full and got 3 cents, anyways it is gonna swing around like a demented pendulum for awhile am guessing
Everyone needs to vote a little to help "normalize it". No problem!!!
Witnesses putting money ahead of personal responsibilities.... Steem mimics the real world. Our elected representatives are incompetent and this only comes to light when the work they are suppose to do hit the ground.
Why are we letting Steetmit Inc. stear the DECENTRALIZED ship? Is this actually a decentralized currency or is something else?
they hold the stake that makes allows them to "control" it. In addition we have not yet attracted any with the skills to compete with them.
As a minnow I never took the time to really review and try to vote for witnesses, but yeah hearing they reject their responsibility is frightening.
I guess checking who is really contributing to the code or at least helping to solve issues on GitHub could be a good start, because you can't possibly audit a blockchain code if you never looked at it even a little.
And there is only 56 contributors to the Steem core repository, that's not a lot. Here are some stats about who contributes the most on the repo, maybe this could help :
https://github.com/steemit/steem/graphs/contributors