What do you think of 3speak? $50 in upvotes to be earned only today.

in #threespeak5 years ago (edited)

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Yesterday I was informed by @starkerz (co-owner 3speak) that today is my opportunity to use the 3speak account to give away upvotes to commenters of my post!

What a cool feature!

Once a month a person from the top30 leaderboard will get that opportunity.

I didn't want to let the opportunity slide but I also wanted to try to generate some decent comments today.

So I'd like to hear what do you think of 3 speak so far?

Here's my take.

As a content creator I really like the uploader, it works every time. Playback works 95% of the time (sometimes a video stops (often only once) and you have to move the slider past the point to make it play further).

The quality of the videos is perfect.

I like the business model. It's not a free platform. You have to pay a monthly fee to use it and also pay extra if you want to upload more than 2 hours of video a month.

They are currently also busy with advertisements to generate more revenue for the content creator and themselves.

I like the free speech angle. It's nice to have a platform where you can speak freely. Although I'm not always a fan of using that in a political sense all the time. No doubt there is a market for it but it's not always for me.

What I like about the free speech angle the most is that it takes away the fear of saying something wrong 'by accident' and getting banned for it.

This is one of the fears that Twitch streamers have. Say one thing 'live on air' wrong and have someone report it and you can get banned or worse have your advertisement (revenue) taken away.

What I also would like to see is more diverse content in the top 30, like more BBQ channels and gaming channels.

Yesterday I saw a Livestream on 3speak by @theycallmedan. Livestreaming is something they are going to focus on and I'm looking forward to it.

The donation model (with the platforms own SPEAK token) could really shine in live streams and attract new content creators.

Let me know in the comments what you think of 3 speak. The best comments will get rewarded!



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What do I think about 3speak?

What I like:
-Quality of videos seems perfect
-Pretty smooth overall experience with using the platform
-Storing my videos permanently (unlike Dtube who deletes them eventually).
-No censorship.


What I don't like
Actually, there's only one thing I don't like but sadly it is enough that I don't use it for my own videos:
Unlike you, I really don't like the business model. That goes both for personal usage and my vision of seeing this becoming mainstream. The fact I have to pay to put up videos is not something I am willing to do. Mostly because it also blocks my vision of seeing how this would ever become mainstream. I know the price is small but it is still a blockade and it WILL be for many others.

For example I put up maybe 2-5 videos a year, why would I pay for that when I have a perfectly fine platform such as youtube? (man I am going to get hate for saying that). If 3speak wants to draw in costumers then I feel like they need to make it free to also become a content creator on their platform.

Now, I know server hosting and all that maintenance is not free. But sadly most people don't care about this when they can see it is free in other places. I would be much happier that 3speak if this was changed into either:

A: Took a 3% cut on all videos (that would be fitting for the name)
or
B: Implemented adds, adds never hurt anybody and I think it is THE best way to keep the internet free, this includes 3speak.

This is just my 3cents(see what I did there?) looking from a consumer and content creators' perspective.

Really, I would much more prefer to use 3speak but right now I am not completely sold and that is shown through my actions that I, in fact, prefer to use youtube. Hopefully, that will change in the future.

I am sure you will eventually find your balance! I am no entrepreneur and I know little about business! It all makes sense what you are saying here and I hope you can manage to find a way to attract more users! You are by far the most promising platform here on Steemit when it comes to videos. :-)

I imagine the ads on your website might also start paying better when more people are joining in.
I really hope to see you guys succeed!

I think (not sure) that most of Youtube revenue comes from content consumers, not creators.

Only the creators have to pay on 3speak, not the consumers.

I see it more like a business proposition as a creator. If using 3speak is beneficial for what a creator wants to achieve then it makes sense.

If you only put up 2-5 videos a year and they don't require free speech I would just use youtube.

People who require free speech is a bit of a narrow scope but still a good selling point for many people who might never need it. Most of the time, if you want to try out becoming a content creator you would also many times end up becoming the consumer. So by locking out content creators unless they pay, could prevent growth. The more activity and videos there are on a platform = more consumers might join in.

Even if that ment I only would make a few videos a year, it could still add to the activity with many others who feels the same.

Free Speech should be important to every human on the planet

My thoughts on 3speak are very similar to yours. Nothing new there! 😁

I've not used it to upload videos so can't comment from that angle but as a listener my biggest bugbear is that I've never yet been able to listen to a video all the way through without it getting stuck. Sometimes moving the slider works but often it doesn't. Sometimes reloading and then moving the slider works and sometimes I have to leave it and come back later. It's a bit frustrating.

I also am not keen on 100% free speech. Although I think people should be able to say want they want to but I'd prefer a channel that was exclusively for stuff that was banned elsewhere rather than having it mixed in with more mainstream stuff. Bit of a pipedream that though as one man's meat is another man's poison.

In the end it will just come down to individual choice I suppose. If I end up seeing more stuff I don't want to see rather than stuff I do them I will just block 3speak or any other similar channels. But that would be the same for anything anyway.

I would also like to see more diverse projects. Same with Oracle-D/YooDoo? which seems to have ended up with primarily crypto related stuff.

It will be interesting to see how it all develops. 😊

I've not used it to upload videos so can't comment from that angle but as a listener my biggest bugbear is that I've never yet been able to listen to a video all the way through without it getting stuck. Sometimes moving the slider works but often it doesn't. Sometimes reloading and then moving the slider works and sometimes I have to leave it and come back later. It's a bit frustrating.

I remember you mentioning this a couple of times. I also have this problem from time to time. The platform is still in Alpha so I do cut them some slack.

I also am not keen on 100% free speech. Although I think people should be able to say want they want to but I'd prefer a channel that was exclusively for stuff that was banned elsewhere rather than having it mixed in with more mainstream stuff. Bit of a pipedream that though as one man's meat is another man's poison.

I think over time when the platform grows, people will just follow the content creators that they like. It's what I do on youtube. I don't go to a trending page to see what video is doing well. I just go to the channel of my go-to content creators.

Even though my interest doesn't really lie with political free speech videos, I do think it's important that there is a platform that allows things to be said even if it doesn't interest me/I disagree with it.

i think 3speak is already really good in user experience and video quality. I like what there are doing for the Steem Blockchain and i see a synergie between both.

I think many project comming soon like 3 speak with Smt and communitys / wallet accounts and RC delegation.

Overall im happy to see projects like 3 speak here.

Telling people about huge upvotes to drive comments seems to be a way for people to farm money with the possibility of not providing quality content or genuine engagement. It’s a strategy to get more interaction, but it could be a slippery slope if not done properly.

I think these tools like 3speak and dtube are cool, but we need a way to bring established YouTubers over here to use them. Ive been trying to leave comments on YouTubers posts to see if we can somehow get them to at least try out these other platform options...

I have been thinking about it, but why would a established YouTuber move? In general, ppl stay where they are comfortable I would think. There must be a good reason to move.

I guess it would be the people who are complaining about being demonotized or censorship

@exyle, First of all i want to say that 3speak.online is giving opportunity for everyone no matter who are they and this shows only one thing and that is this platform is against of any kind of censorship and not just Content Creators, Content Curators and Commenters have equal opportunity to empower themselves.

Manual Curation shows that 3Speak Team is truly dedicated to their idea and while supporting all the engagements they are Strengthening this Ecosystem and going forward this aspect will going to prove Foundational Point.

In my opinion many don't know yet about the new Initiative and that is Top 30 Content Creators have opportunity to hold huge Vote Weight once a month which can be used to encourage their Audience. And in my opinion this is very unique step and in a way it have Gaming Face to it and it will attract more users towards 3Speak.

3Speak have rich features and for only 30 Steem Content Creators can access it and in my opinion consistent creators can achieve most effective Rate Of Interest (ROI) and going forward we will going to see new wave of Content Creators.

New Development is Community where we can create Community by investing Speak Token and in my opinion every platform should have specific space so that like minded people can come forward to Engage and Discuss. I have created one too and named this Community as Awakening Poetry.

Many are not focusing towards Speak Tokens but in my opinion once the SMT Protocol is launched then this Token can lead and can empower Tipping Ecosystem on 3speak.online.

So much is happening in this Ecosystem and it's boosting my Spirit to express myself and i am expressing my poetry and have great journey with 3Speak Ecosystem.

Here i want to appreciate @theycallmedan, @starkerz, @anarcotech and @wehmoen.

@exyle, Keep up the good work and stay blessed brother.

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I think that 3speak it's a great plataform because of the free speech, as you said, that takes away the fear of saying something wrong. I really enjoy the diversity of the content that you can find here, you can see someone making some really art and then someone else talking about very important themes on our society.

I would like to see more content in spanish because I'm Venezuelan so the english is not my first language and because of that I cannot use it as much as I would like to.

Talking about the quality of the videos, is really good, they charge very fast in a really great resolution witch makes them easier to watch and enjoy.

I had found here a place to share what I am pasionatte about, the music, because I think that the music is the universal language and I want to share with everyone my own story and help everyone as much as I can with this especific topic giving to they some practice advices, because it's not all about the talent. It's about the love for the music and the discipline. I also try to integrate my family to my videos 'cuz they are the most important part of my life.

SO, keep with the good job. Greetings.

Threespeak is a huge shift for my video creation and motivation. After being on DTube since its inception, it has been more and more difficult to keep it up there, because the upload was messy and didn't work for me more than often, the videos were deleted after some time and getting upvotes was getting more and difficult. Plus the 10% beneficiary rewards felt undeserved for all the trouble that I had with it.

When 3Speak started and introduced a monthly fee, I was first very sceptical. But the benefit of having fast servers, HD videos and unlimited video storage (even after the subscription ends) were a great selling argument. The upvotes are nice although I am not counting on them forever, as this is not sustainable, so I rather try to create the best content I can to receive the upvotes from outside of 3Speak and become bit by bit independent of the momentarily upvote-heaven.

And the team behind 3Speak is amazing, listens to the users and does great work for the Steem blockchain on many fronts. How can we not love it?

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I like it because you'll pay me to say I like it!

One suggestion I'd like to offer today is, in the future, members should keep the fact they can hand out large votes for comments a secret in order to prevent disingenuous comments like the line I left above. I've always been a fan of upvoting comments I receive when posting my work. I always treated it much like I'm offering customers a free coffee for showing up to my shop. Unfortunately, I'm not able to do it as much as I could before the changes, but that's okay.

There's a dark side to all of this though. On a few occasions I've been told by people who didn't know any better things like, "They only leave comments because you upvote their words." There will always be trolls and these negative types who have no problem insulting the integrity of those who wish to spend time on my blog. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. On the surface, it's hard to tell many of these folks have built up a strong rapport with me over many months. I know who's being real with me.

On the other side of the coin, especially when the value of the token was high, there were people consistently showing up to leave bland compliments and buttkissery all while expecting an upvote. I had to be really careful. I don't support sycophants using me and it's also almost depressing when you find out their words meant nothing.

Yeah, it is a great service. Someone should reach out to Roseanne since she wants to start up a podcast and sometimes says shit she regrets later, then loses everything. A big name like that would be awesome to have around, but good luck.

I just don't want to see a post about someone holding the comment lottery vote each time they get it. I'd prefer to see the natural content flow, and those lucky enough to comment that day simply receive the bonus, as a surprise. If people don't know when it's coming, maybe they'll comment more, because that post might be the post, but if not, at least the words are genuine.

I like it because you'll pay me to say I like it!

That's a fair thing to say. And is good feedback.

The reason I mentioned it this time is because the feature is not used that much by content creators yet and I wanted to give it some exposure.

I just don't want to see a post about someone holding the comment lottery vote each time they get it. If people don't know when it's coming, maybe they'll comment more, because that post might be the post, but if not, at least the words are genuine.

Also very fair.

I don't think you did anything wrong here. It is a cool little bonus prize you folks get to play with and rewarding folks is always fun. Worst case scenario though is how once this is well-known, some people might seek out the posts rewarding comments and ignore the rest of the posts. If they know about the bonus but don't know where it is, they'll be everywhere, and of course only the quality comments actually get the rewards, so it should come naturally.

It's been somewhat quiet around here lately so these incentives are a good thing. As someone who doesn't use the service, I'm almost jealous!
Almost.

I'm not a big watcher of videos, especially if it's just someone talking, although I've done my own vlogs on dtube. It's largely a matter of available time. I've not put anything on 3speak and not watched much there, but when I used it performance was good.

I appreciate that it can have appeal for those 'demonetised' elsewhere, but they tend to be the sort of people I'm not interested in. Seeing the platform give them big votes is a turn-off for me.

We need alternative platforms for video to break the YouTube monopoly and I'd love to see more being done on Steem. It's not a cheap thing to run due to the amount of data involved. I wonder how viable it is with the current Steem price. I would hope that will improve.

I am not 100% sure how bad the demonetization of Youtube has become.

I would think it starts from the outer edges of content that is 'extremely offensive' but works it's way inwards until only generic content is accepted or until people simply conform to the norm.

It's a slippery slope I guess.

I hope more diverse content will find it's way to 3speak eventually.

I've had discussions with @starkerz about the political stuff. We don't agree on everything.

Most of the videos I watch online are guitar lessons. I'd love it if those were on Steem. People tend to go where their audience is. Being able to make a few dollars may not be enough of a draw if the audience is tiny.