RE: Steeve Now in Public Beta: Personal Recommendations and the World Without Bidbots & Voting Trails
Hello, I am @fyrstikken, owner of the original bidbot @booster. I noticed you used our services to promote your bot-free front end/app.
I have spent some time on your website, watching the trending-page without promotion, and I did not get impressed by the "selected many"
Maybe you can tone down your hate towards the bidbot/promotion services. After all you and the majority on steem use them and delegate SteemPower to them and get extra income that way.
Sincerely,
The man behind @fyrstikken and @fyrst-witness, the CEO who commanded his company to put 130 Bitcoins into STEEM and bought a whale position which I can do with what I want, including upvoting you for free or for pay.
I am not going to comment very much more about your app. As it is not much to say about it. I just suggest to not use the "no bidbot experience" narrative.
Anyways, thanks for the business today. I hope they were all a positive and profitable experience for you.
Thank you for a valuable input. Steeve is more of an experiement, pretty dynamically evolving, and we will definitely will be aligning Steeve according to all your reactions.
So, this is merely a kickoff of the genuine votes feature, we have to decide where to take it next. There may as well just be a button in the UI that allows you to switch between regular and genuine mode not to promote no bidbot experience too much since you are right that it has its place. We will be discussing this in upcoming days.
Thanks again and have a nice day!
I'm really happy to see a no bidbot experience. I think those like @fyrstikken were naive to think people would want to see only advertisements and paid programming when traditionally that sort of content always receives the lowest ratings. This is just the most logical step forward. They made it so we could pause and record live television; skip the commercials. There's a skip button on every ad Youtube offers. This Steeve genuine content experience was exactly what's been needed here for a long time. Now genuine content producers who skip the middleman can work in front of a genuine audience again. That's brilliant. Thank you.
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I don't know if you have encountered those.
Have you guys taken votes from @smartmarket and @minnowbooster into consideration? Thats still a way to buy votes from everyday people not "bidbots" and still get into trending.
We know about these, but they are not treated in any special way because:
So, treating just these two in a special way would not change much in our listings.
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I couldn't agree with you more and the fact that they bought votes from bots for this post is a symbol that the supports Steemit neutrality principle, enables creation of platform for freedom of expression and creativity on the Internet. Are upvoting bots prohibited? No, so those that want to, are free to use them.
@fyrstikken this is so true. He is using bots for his post while trying to discredit them.
I will check your service for future needs.
We have been discussing this in another thread.
Anyway, I don't think that your argument is really valid 100%. We have tried to get through without paid promotion, you can check @steeveapp blog. It didn't quite work out that well, so we in the end decided to pay some bots. Which is not in conflict with the idea of genuine votes. We have to be realists, this is how Steem is at the moment.
And really, I have nothing against paid promotion, but I am not sure it should work the way it is now. But we will definitely be discussing and aligning genuine votes further.
So much hate for the bots. I wonder how this system would factor in services like SmartSteem where you buy the votes of actual (and some "actual") members. Would that make it to the trending section on Stevia or whatever it's called?
I don't think there is any hate for bidbots, we are just making it possible to view Trending in a different way. It's also an experiment to see whether that feature makes sense. We will be aligning it according to any valuable input.
In any case, I don't see any issues with being able to view Trending like that. We may add the regular Trending at one point, which will make it optional to view the filtered world.
True. Seems like now in a lot of the topics, the trending stuff is just whatever is boosted on SmartMarket.
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