Mmmm Yeah Baby, Put It In My Reward Pool
Listen up circle-jerkers because I have some bad news for you: most of you are whiny little bitches who will never do anything with your lives.
I say that for two reasons. One, it's a good opening line that probably caused you to click on this article.
Two, I've been seeing a lot of this @haejin vs @berniesanders slapfight going on with various people taking sides. Some people think it's not fair that homeboy upvotes all his own posts and makes bank, while other people... well, I guess nobody disagrees with that. Except me.
First of all, let's get one thing straight: if ANY of you were in @haejin's place, you'd be doing the exact same thing. Shit, if I had another account that somehow had two million SP, you better believe every single one of you motherfuckers would be seeing pictures of my breakfast. And don't delude yourself, you'd do the same thing. We all would.
So why the hate for @haejin? It's simple. You're all just a bunch of jealous no-talent broke ass haters. Sorry not sorry.
Think about it like this: Steemit is a purely capitalistic system. The people who have money have the ability to purchase upvotes and get more visibility for their content. I've beat this horse to death so many times I don't even have the energy to rant about it any more.
Dey took errrr jahbbbssss!
Oddly enough, most of you seem to confuse my disdain for the low-quality content on the Trending page with a complaint for how the Steemit system works.
Let me make this clear: I'm not complaining about the system. I think the system is fine. Capitalism is good. It's the content that's garbage. And whose fault is that? @Haejin's? No. It's YOUR fault.
Yeah, you heard me, random internet people. It's YOUR fault there's no good content on the Trending page. We are not here to fucking entertain you, you lazy pieces of shit. Why don't YOU make something interesting to entertain US? What's your fucking problem anyway? Are you lazy? Stupid? No artistic ability whatsoever? Scared to put something out there? Too busy circle-jerking each other for $0.01 upvotes?
Ask yourself this: what exactly is your contribution to society? And don't give me that, "I'm a loving mother and wife, my banana nut muffins are the best ever..." Bitch, fuck your muffins.
Or, maybe not. Maybe your muffins ARE out of this world. Maybe YOUR muffins, YOU the person reading this RIGHT NOW, YOUR muffins are so fucking awesome that if anyone had even just a little taste of all the love you put into every batch, they'd give you genuine praise. They'd say things like:
"Wow, those are the best muffins I've ever had!"
"I've had a lot of muffins at this bakery, but most of them are shit. YOUR muffins are different though. Please bake more!"
"OMG - I can't believe I ate the WHOLE BOX. Truly amazing muffins. I really liked the part where you put bananas and nuts in there."
Those of you who consider yourselves "authors" or "content creators," here's what I want you to do: go to your feed and read some of your posts. Be honest with yourself. What do you think? Did those posts get your dick hard at all? Or is it just more of the same 300 word article spinner-esque trash that not even a homeless person would read in exchange for a hot meal?
They put mirrors in the gym because mirrors don't lie
I go back and read some the old stuff I've written and think to myself, "Jesus Christ these are some fucking good ass muffins." When I read them, I secretly wish that other people would read them more than once and praise me for my writing skills. I want my posts to be taught in schools. I want new users on this platform to be told, "Oh yeah, Steemit is cool. Make sure you go and read everything by @yallapapi though. Before you do anything."
Is this from some sort of delusional, egotistical, irrational love for myself? No. I still think I'm a big fat loser. But I put massive amounts of effort into writing because I have always believed that it's SO good, that someday I would be "discovered" as a muffin expert. I tell you guys things about myself that I would probably never discuss face-to-face with another person. Not because I give a shit about you, but because pulling off the mask to reveal the ugly parts of your humanity makes for the most entertaining writing.
Far better than, "7 Night Markets You Have To Try In Vietnam!" Fucking kill me please.
Those of you who are talking about how @haejin or whoever else is "abusing" their SP to vote themselves into a higher tax bracket are just mad at YOURSELVES because you don't have the balls to admit that your content is boring, unimaginative drivel that not even your mom would want to read. Possibly even MORE painful is the fact that this is plainly obvious by your reluctance or inability to "put your money where your mouth is" and drop a couple bucks into the STEEM blockchain to promote yourself.
You don't want to face the fact that you know your content is bad, that you're too lazy to make it shine, lack the balls to promote it, and/or are too poor to upvote it into visibility on a regular basis.
Ooof owie ouch my reward pool
Do I give a shit about how @haejin uses his SP? Not really. Know why? Because I'm confident enough in the work I produce to drop a few hundred bucks on it so you'll have something interesting to read instead of doing actual work. His "abuse" of the reward pool hasn't affected me at all.
So please, my dear circle-jerkers, tell me: why should I care that homeboy is getting rich? As far as I'm concerned, his TA posts are just as bad as whatever any of you are writing. I'm not going to read either of them anyway. In fact, the only person on here that's wowed me is that guy who runs the #dolphinschool. I don't remember his name, but that guy is legit.
Why should anyone with the means to "invest in the STEEM blockchain" give a shit that your posts aren't getting seen and ours are? In the interest of fairness? This is capitalism, baby. In fact, the blockchain is all about capitalism. No regulation, no artificial controls in place to hold back the free market. Gotta take the good with the bad.
And ultimately, that's what I'm trying to tell you. Instead of complaining like a little bitch, you need to learn to use the system to your advantage. It's like how I always tell girls to use their looks to get ahead. You have a pretty face and a firm ass? Let's see that shit. I'll gladly hook you up with one of my $0.04 upvotes.
Or maybe I won't. But at least I'll know who you are. Then, once you're getting some eyes on your "content," you can spread the word about how there are only 68 white rhinos left in Africa or whatever stupid shit you care about.
It may sound harsh, but what's the alternative? Write an engaging 2600 word blog post that takes the reader for the ride of their life? Blow their mind with some straight talk and prudent life advice? Spill your guts on the page and make the circle-jerkers love you and hate you at the same time? Who do you think you are, @yallapapi or something?
Nah. You're just a nobody. Just a whiny little scavenger who thinks the world owes them something because you have a pulse.
How to actually make money on Steemit, or anywhere for that matter
Now... what's the silver lining here? I'm tempted to tell you that there isn't one. No matter how you look at it, you have to do the work. You need to use your brain and figure out how to work the system to your advantage. If one path is blocked, find another. If there is no path, create one.
For example, let's say that one day @haejin decides he wants to think long term. He changes his content strategy and starts posting half-decent articles in order to create a positive reputation for his brand. Let's say that he realizes that he can make even MORE money with LESS work by producing 1 quality article per day and selling ads to blockchain startups to advertise on his blog. He uses affiliate links in his posts, shills his brand new ebook, How I Became A Steemit Millionaire, and asks people to sign up for his newsletter. You know, like a real business.
This would allow him to step away from the computer and start making meaningful connections in the cryptocurrency industry. He could promote himself as "the #1 cryptocurrency influencer on Steemit." He can get his posts to the top of the Trending page at no extra cost to the client. His articles are SO good, that his readers voluntarily post links to them on Reddit and Hacker News, where he gets additional exposure from blockchain entrepreneurs and cryptocurrency investors.
Over time, the @haejin brand becomes well-known for technical analysis, ICO speculation and general cryptocurrency news. He uses the existing community on Steemit to fill up his email list with people who actually care about what he has to say. Not because they're trying to circle-jerk him into upvoting their posts, but because they respect his opinion and experience. He's no longer just making passive income from his ebook, but now has a $5k/month mentorship program for up and coming crypto influencers.
In fact, the @haejin brand is now SO influential that he is getting offers from legitimate ICOs with big boy money to handle their fundraising. He never would have been able to do this had he not stepped away from his charts and hired that marketing firm to promote his new consulting business. Now earning a $40k/month retainer per client, he spends most of his time flying to Asia (business class, of course) to pitch hungry Asian investors on the hottest new ICOs coming from The West.
From there, the sky's the limit. He could hire some developers and create an eBay-like marketplace built on the STEEM blockchain. He could use his connections to put together an accelerator program like YCombinator for blockchain startups. He could start appearing on legitimate media channels like Fox News, NASDAQ, and CNBC as one of the leading analysts in the blossoming world of digital currency.
Or, he could keep thinking small. Keep pumping out TA articles for $100/each and jerking off into a tissue. Hiding his identity. Ignoring the harsh criticism from the haters, those peasants who are just jealous of his success. Never showing his face in public. Keeping his personal details private for fear of being doxxed by opportunistic hackers. Knowing that he'll receive no pity from anyone should his Golden Goose one day stop laying those $100 eggs.
Go beyond the Prisoner's Dilemma
What you don't realize, my dear circle-jerkers, is that ANY of you are capable of the exact same thing. Much like we are all born with different advantages in terms of height, intelligence and social class, we all start on this platform at different points. Homeboy was lucky enough to be born into the Saudi Royal Family. You? You're not even a Nigerian prince.
And there you are, pecking away at your keyboard hoping to score $0.20 with your sycophantic ass-kissing comments, your virtue-signaling, pandering articles that are so transparent I could wrap my spring rolls in them. Your boring, lifeless, unironically sad stories that show the world that any shred of originality you once had was erased long ago by Netflix binges, cable television and the low expectations set for you by the same people who won't let kids play dodge ball in school anymore.
Where's your animal instinct, your bloodlust? Do you even have any?
If you're reading this, then you probably don't. Because if you did, you wouldn't have time to read this shit. You'd be working on whatever it was that's going to get you out of your shitty situation. Writing these is now a luxury for me because I'm comfortable enough to spare a few hours making sure they're perfect. Maybe someday it'll be worth it for me to do this full-time, but for now I just do it for the ego boost.
I doubt you can say the same. You're here for the money.
And look, I know you're doing the best you can. Really. I know you're just doing what you think will work. That's why I'm so hard on you. Because you're fucking wrong, you dense motherfuckers. You can't write mediocre trash and expect anyone to care. Step your game up and at least TRY to make something memorable. Use your brain, start taking some PRIDE in your content and you will improve faster than you think.
Why you shouldn't take advice from LeBron James
Despite everything I just wrote, you don't NEED to write a masterpiece in order to make money on here. All you have to do is pick a niche you like, write a bunch of articles about it and throw in some affiliate links. Go on MailChimp and start a newsletter. Sign up for Amazon's affiliate program. Write an ebook about your niche and sell it for $5. Post links to your articles on Reddit, Facebook, whatever.
Send emails to businesses in your niche and promote yourself as an influencer. Show them your articles. Even if they're trash. Just do it anyway, because most freelancers/companies don't have a regularly updated blog with views and comments. But on this platform, that's par for the course.
And your content will get better. I didn't write like this from day one. But now, even when I send an email to a client I'm like, "Yeah, this is gonna fuckin blow them away," because they're just that good.
Seriously, what's stopping you from selling something? Aside from the people who manage the upvote bots, I've never seen anyone sell anything on here. How the fuck do you think business gets done? How did you get the computer you're reading this on? How did you get the house you're living in? How did you get your groceries?
You bought them from somewhere, so why shouldn't people buy from you? These are timeless strategies that will actually put some money in your pocket. Do you know how fucking hard it is to make money as a writer? Do you have any idea how many writers are out there who are 100x better than you'll ever be who make absolutely 0 money? Do you know how many books get published on Amazon every year that nobody reads?
Are the NYT Bestsellers the best books in the world? No. Do they have the strongest MARKETING team behind them? Yes.
You don't know what a gift it is to be able to use a platform where you are virtually guaranteed exposure and engagement for your content. Not only that, but people are incentivized to comment, upvote and share your work. Why don't you take advantage of that? Shit, my last post is sitting at 3200 views right now. If I was smart, I would have typed up some bullshit PDF and sold it for $10 at the end of the post and let you pay in STEEM. I know some of you motherfuckers would have bought that shit.
What's stopping you from doing the same thing? Nothing but your own laziness. Fuck.
Come on people, time to step your fucking game up.
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Hey I read about half your post, then I realized it was a long post. What I read I liked and think you are dead on. Nice to see someone betting on themselves. But I feel you could have gotten 2 to 3 quality posts out of your content. You hit a ton on issues in one. Keep up the good work
Yeah thats true, to really get the message home more post on it would have been good.
Yeah sure you liked what you read and then decided it's always best to leave when things are at their best ;)
@Yallapapi The reward pool is the same amount every day regardless of how voting takes place. So by upvoting his own effortless POSTS, he is actively REMOVING reward from someone else who worked hard on their post. By rewarding himself he is taking away from others.
This action if allowed to continue promotes such behavior in others.
"If this guy can make a bunch of money upvoting his "shitty posts to the trending, then why shouldn't I?" Once the rewards are being monopolized by people who are making money with little to no effort, then the genuine content creators will leave because they are not getting rewarded.
When genuine content creators leave, and investors come looking at Steem and see a pile of crap posts, meme's, and people getting big upvotes on effortless posts they will decide not to invest. Without people wanting to buy in to Steem the value of the Steem token goes down. This hurts across the board, whether you have 5 STEEM or 500,000 STEEM, if the value is Zero, your value is zero.
So long answer short, promoting GOOD content promotes a higher value of Steem, promoting crap content contributes to the downward pricing influence, and, in a complete doomsday scenario, kills the platform when Steem value drops to an effective Zero across the board.
Good Content - Good For Growth
Crap Content - Good for short term, get in and get out profits for people who don't care
anyway i love yours posts bro
No haijin upvoting hisself doesn't affect your portion of the rewards payout at all.
It's not about "genuine content creators"
There are farmers in Guatemala that grow rare stems of white cacao. It's a country with sun all year long and jungles. They work hard and sweat 70hrs/week for this agriculture.
Once their rare, biologic, genuine cacao is harvested, what do they do with it?
They sell it bulk DIRT CHEAP to big companies that actually know how to process it to be appealing to the people... The laters cash in +1000% profits
Coca-Cola is a bubbling sugared drink.
Nike is producing polyester and cotton clothes.
Starbucks sell 5$ coffees.
This is about marketing, this is about getting noticed, this is about knowing how to make money
This is how the world turns, and it isn't going to change
Steem is a capitalist platform, being a "genuine creator" is not enough
Absolutely. The correlation between quality and income just isn't there. The people with the means make it to the top. If you got in late, and want to be in the top, you have to do something different. It's the same with businesses. You can take a super genius engineer and have him build the greatest watch in the world, but if he's just a single guy and doesn't have a strategy to get eyes on it, it won't sell.
This right here. Although I would add that if you are promoting shit, people will notice. As soon as the marketing dollars are removed then it will disappear.
If it's quality, then it will linger.
That was kind of the point of my post. Probably should have made that more clear. People aren't putting their best faces forward. They aren't taking any pride in their work. Most of the posts on here are low effort shots of their breakfast. They aren't actually trying to create valuable content.
Once they realize that success on any platform depends on creating valuable content, my hope is that they'll up their game a little bit. Or they'll just quit because they thought it would be easy money over here.
This will definitely happen in the long run. I'd like to think Steemit now is akin to Youtube at it's early age, when you get shit like Youtubepoop and Replygirls videos.. One day only the best content gets highlighted on Steemit (who knows, when "great" content creators jump over from Youtube or Medium, maybe even fuckin Washington Post itself). Then we know that the Steem Blockchain has succeeded in what it set out to do.
The issue is that there is no incentive to create better content because people are getting rewarded for producing shit. As long as you "network" here and post things that the top 300ish accounts want to see, then they'll upvote you and you'll make money regardless of quality.
This will all change with SMT, if it ever comes out. I can guarantee that.
of course, quality is subjective and it doesnt matter who the market is a person will profit if they give what the market wants. In this case we're talking about the whales. Seems typical to me.
I guess it's really because the steem network effect hasn't reached a size where it mirrors the mainstream zeitgeist. We're only less than a million users big, taking into account the alts and the bots and the ghost account. That's pretty small for a content platform, much less a social media.
I can see how forward thinking steemians can win though. Produce quality content AND THEN market it all over the net, Medium, personal website, build a personality and run ads on the bigger social media. Then monetize it by drawing them to any of the Steem platforms instead of begging for Patreons.
Beats circlejerking in the long run.
And of course that has been your message all along.
LOTS of people upvote their own posts, even minnows with next to no SP. So why not call those people out as well? Everyone who self-votes is taking something from the reward pool and giving it to themselves, so my question is where (and why) is the cutoff? If I am a guy with 500 SP and I upvote ALL of my posts how is this any different? Sure, my vote is worth less but the action is the same, self-voting, and if I can do it so can you, and anyone else for that matter.
You say if this action (self-voting)is allowed to continue it will lead to bad things for steemit. First of all who can stop someone from self-voting their own post(answer-only the person who self-votes their own post has that power). I mean this is the way the system was set up, for better or for worse, and I knew that coming in so I'm gonna roll with it. I certainly do not want some kind of Steemit police set up to stop only certain people from upvoting their own posts because where does it stop? In haejins case, he also has a single whale upvtoting all his posts to the moon. Well now are you gonna tell this guy he is not allowed to vote this way? It's a slippery slope man.
This leads to your, "long answer short" paragraph. Who is to judge what content is good and what is shit? Steemit police again? I mean I LOVE this post from Skepitc, but I bet someone saw it and hated it. So who is right? If Steemit fails because of self-voting, so be it. I would be sad and hurt as hell but at least I know I did my best to upvote, comment & encourage the posts I enjoy. I turned to Steemit (and crypto) for the freedom of it and the last thing I want is someone telling me what I can and can't view/upvote. If I wanted that bullshit I would have signed up for fakebook or twitter.
There is no need to 'forbid' anything, but the platform could make it less attractive to upvote oneself (including multiple or 'friendly' accounts) again and again.
One idea would be 'diminishing returns'.
The other one not to let the reward curve start linear any longer.
People who want to game the system will always find a way to game the system. The issue is not @haejin or anyone else raping the reward pool.
The issue is that if people were to create quality content and promote it themselves, either by paid vote bots or by sharing links on other websites, it would be irrelevant because they could individually monetize their own posts and not have to rely on getting STEEM/SBD as a reward.
Nice to read from you: I like it a lot if famous authors take their time to reply to me. ;-)
Actually I don't blame the gamers (at least not predominantly - they act as humans more or less just tend to act if there is a possibility), but yes, I do blame the system.
Every system can be gamed, but it shouldn't be as easy as possible. I guess you agree that we need any kind of reward curve? OK, if we need one, then we also should think about which kind of curve would be the best ...
It is a simple fact, that the more attractive self-voting (including the use of multiple or 'friendly' accounts) is, the higher the percentage of self-upvotes will be. (In my own case for example upvoting solely myself would definitely lead to a higher profit than I am currently making - therefore I decided to opt for a mix of self-voting and - manually - upvoting content which I like).
Is that a problem? In my eyes, yes, it is: why should people try to make as good articles as possible if - in an extreme case - anyway everybody upvotes himself only? If I upvote my own articles (and others are upvoing theirs), then it doesn't matter if I write a novel or a one-liner. And if then potential investors check this site with all these 'one-liners' ... do you think they are interested to invest in Steem and thus contribute to increase the value of our beloved coin?
Of course the above scenario is exaggerated. Some authors do have their pride and - even if it's not worth it - continue to create really good stuff ...
Of course you also have a point: many authors don't really invest all they can in their articles, and instead of that produce a lot but at the same time rather cheap stuff which nobody is really interested to read.
But that's only part of the truth: I know many good authors who really give their very best to produce something they can be proud of. If it would be more attractive to upvote many different accounts instead of the same ones again and again (for example by introducing 'diminishing returns') then I think more new Steemians would get the attention they deserve.
Concerning promoting ones stuff that's just not my cup of tea, but, well, people are different, methods are different ... that's alright. Maybe I am just not enough of a 'businessman', but it has nothing to do with the quality of my articles: I have nothing to hide :-) , and I can assure you that in every single article I do the very best I am able to do (even if I agree that everything of course is a matter of taste: for example for you my articles about water striders or the near forest are probably even less exciting than the "68 white rhinos", haha).
Have a nice day! :)
Awesome, I would support both of these ideas. Thanks for the enlightenment!
Spread them on Steemit then ... :)
Wrong, people can cancel out any self-votes if they have the power. The whitepaper is explicit on Abuse through self voting, go read it, you might understand WHY and HOW this is supposed to be dealt with, no, I don't need to read past your abuse of logic that the only power is in the self-voters hands.
@baah
The problem is about honesty and integrity. If we stand together in trust to say that we will upvote quality content, then we have to do that...he should go and read it
I don't judge the majority of the community by the few that pander to this nonsense that is as removed from honesty and integrity as possible, he's deluded and lied to himself so much that there is zilch for consistency in his stool, what the fuck is community about voturbating to the tune of 60%, or what the fuck falls under Love in the entire shitstain he's left with this post: None, which is exactly what I think about the few who pander to the bully to the abusers and to the "bitches and money" attitude imbuned in the last abaration I skimped through. He's the next Craig-Grant, he's gonna do well here, I remember when Craig-Grant was doing his vlogs, every sentence was an excruciatingly formed turd of a thought as our One of the Chosen People so captivatingly embodies with words, and most of Craig's fans have long since dissolved into the background, and should they pipe up they do with the knowledge that their history is immortalized in the blockchain and anyone can bring up their crap in 2.5 seconds. In this case, it's about Downvoting worthless shitstaind content.
There really is no answer to this. If you disallow self voting, you'll just have more people participate in the group pools where they essentially trade votes, or they'll make alt accounts that vote themselves. It's going to boil down to a culture thing to stop self-voting, and I honestly don't know if it's even possible.
Self-voting is not the problem. Lack of quality content is. Lack of an entrepreneurial mindset is.
Let's say for the sake of argument that you were to create a piece of content that you knew 100% would go viral if enough people saw it. Your friends would share it on their FB page, people would post it to Reddit, etc.
If your livelihood was dependent on this post doing well, would you spend some money to promote it?
If, on the other hand, you knew it was trash and half-assed it because someone told you that you could get free money on here for posting stuff, would you pay to promote it?
The problem is that people don't create shareable, quality content. That is what will grow this platform. That is what will attract people here.
Let's pretend for a second that there were 20 other people who wrote posts like I do. Maybe in a different style, but let's say they were long, engaging and entertaining. Let's say they wrote 2 per week. Let's also say that they paid money to use upvote bots to promote them. What would happen?
You would transform the Trending page overnight. All of a sudden, Steemit would be a fucking cool ass place to go to see what kinds of crazy shit was posted there in the past 24 hours.
How is this not blowing people's minds? Shit, if I had $5m to invest I'd put it all into STEEM, teach people how to write something entertaining and fill the Trending page with posts that I deemed entertaining.
But people don't think big enough. They can't look beyond some random picture of their backyard or their 3 year old that they think is going to get them some pity upvotes. Think bigger.
The addition of literally 20 high quality content creators could blow this platform off the map. Where are they?
Self-voting is not a huge problem. It's more that it's neutral. I don't think it damages the platform that much, it just makes it run completely sideways. You are right that an entrepreneurial mindset is missing. Even looking at bid bots, who are the entrepreneurs? The owners of the bots. They could upvote themselves, but why would they do that when people are paying them far more than their upvotes are worth right now?
The main issue people have with self voting is just that people upvote themselves instead of quality content, but there honestly isn't much quality content in the first place. Part of the problem is that people just aren't making it, but I think a reason for that is because there is an incentive to make content that appeals to a select few people here on Steemit. If I made an article that went viral and 17 million people read it and loved it, that fact alone earns me 0$. It is only if STEEM holders upvote me that causes me to make a profit. Now, if I wrote that article then I'm sure I would get plenty of high upvotes, the point I'm making is more just that people choose to target those STEEM holders directly. Cater to their interests, write articles about STEEM itself, it is the one thing we all have in common after all. This leads to the content on the site being very insular, and not having broad outside appeal, because why should it? I don't make money from making things that everyone loves, I make money from making things that STEEM whales love.
I'm not much of selfvoter, as my ratio of sv is around 1:5. But for those who do...I think they would find a way to get around. If not anything else, they could make a deal with few other steemians to vote on each other's comments and posts. There are many services, you can pay to be upvoted with 200-250%. You did not do it, you are not the upvoter. But everyone is dealing with their own way how to handle things. So yeah, I wouldn't change that, and certainly would not like to have "I'm looking what you're doing" kinda script in the system. That's why we wanted to get out of the centralised system.
"Everyone who self-votes is taking something from the reward pool and giving it to themselves"
Which they deserve and are entitled to as investors of Steemit.
Not agreeing/disagreeing with anyone in particular, just jumping in with a factoid.
Agreed. Just pointing out that fact as well.
Very good point to highlight. @jordanlove
What is just should be nothing more else but just.
Thank god then that facebook or snapchat is such a high quality content platform investors believe in 😂
"he is actively REMOVING reward from someone else who worked hard on their post"
You do not know what the word removing means, and therefore, your entire comment is worthless.
You can't remove something someone never had.
You win, i lose bro
I like your take in this whole heajin berniesanders flag war BS.
I think those getting all worked up about it are just wasting everyone's time and making steemit look bad.
But i don't think Steemit is a purely capitalistic system. It has elements of a gift economy like the American Indians had.
In my experience paying it forward and building value for others has worked very well for me. I run a contest called Open Mic on Steemit. It helps musicians get their music heard and it's a huge community on the platform. People play their music and get upvoted and exposure.
I upvote them and build value for them, not myself. As a result i get followed upvoted and rewarded.
Why? Because it helps others.
And yes, it is a lot of work. I'm definitely putting the work in.
The wealthiest people in any business got that way by helping others, not by helping themselves. Their wealth is just a result of that.
In my view, I don't have the time to get involved in flag war BS because I'm too busy working to build the Open Mic community on Steemit and creating value here to get sidetracked in who is earning rewards and how.
To me that whole discussion is a luxury for those who have nothing to contribute and they are, as you say, just jealous.
Well said man. We do need to take time to discuss the bad stuff on the blockchain. It is necessary as the people are supposed to govern this system. However, continious ranting to me is useless. I do think it is important to keep discussing, but I am getting a head ache to all the childish stuff we see out there, that I don't even want to start getting in all that shit. I just focuss on doing what I think is right.
"The wealthiest people in any business got that way by helping others, not by helping themselves. Their wealth is just a result of that."
I don't mean to be a pain in the ass, but I look at a worldwide rich list of mostly corrupt bankers, politicians, and corporate thieves, and I have to ask if you have a citation on this one besides it feeling good to say it, in a sort of "happy ending" kind of way?
How much are Apple's Foxconn Chinese Factory workers paid again? Can we get that number in "fractions of the cost of one factiory anti-suicide net"?
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This is why I call you Senpai.
Reading your post @yallapapi is like im playing SF it's stimulating. I like your argument in this one! It's actually the system in Steemit should be the one that needs a drastic reform, because there's no point on wasting time criticizing anyone just only to make attention that's all. :)
Really well said there's no point on wasting time criticizing anyony just only to make attention that's all.
I hate to disagree with you after such a nice compliment, but I don't think the system needs a rework. I think it works just fine.
What this platform needs is some better content creators who have methods of earning money in addition to revenue generated by their posts.
but if we let such kind loopholes in steemit, that means we are inviting cockroaches inside. :)
How do you propose one monetizes the skill of writing in the current fake-numers, rock-bottom-click-prices online-advertising market?
@cortexx that sounds right
FollowBack every day 100%
"well, I guess nobody disagrees with that. Except me."
I've been saying that the whole time, but the minnow communists around here (and the big autistic whales) would rather attack any success at Steemit, so the site looks like a collection of failures, than actually produce something of their own.
I would never thought that allowing a stranger to insult and calling me motherfker a few times in a row, would make me feel good as fk.
Thanks papi, i usually dont read any single post, but for some reason i started to read this one, and was like a drug. Slowly i was looking for more and more.
So yeah, lets put this little shitty brain on, and look for something worth to do more than upvoting my own self shit posts.
I haven’t gotten through but about half of any of your posts. They’re really good, but I don’t have the hours in the day to finish them. Thanks for the share and I’ll hit you with a follow.
@yallapapi, I checked my posts and they are 95% great content:
Dtube earrings with tutorial. I didn't get any upvote from #dtube:
Self custom made Sherlocka Holmes cape, with detailed process images:
3d cryptocurrencies box and cryptochocolate all made by me, with images of the process:
Self custom made blazer with a video how I made it on @dtube. NO upvote from dtube! dtube only likes people who promotes dtube or talk about crypto.
I spent HOURS on my project before I even can start writing my post. I guess I have to do the same thing like you.
She came through with the fashion show
:-D. I paid for the fashion show.
I like you! Do you use other social media than steemit?
Yeah it be like that at times lol
@fathin-shihab - you have loads of talent. You will be successful; I'd buy those delicious chocolates if you're selling them... keep up the great work.
hehehe! thanks! I am pretty sure they will melt. Unless you would take that risk, I can make these chocolate with any flavours you want. Just let me know :-).
Please also consider to help rebuilding my reputation! I was the victim of a Cruel Mob of Flaggers, some of them Following me ONLY TO DOWNVOTE MY NEW POSTS!
So , not to be boring but I need all the help I can get! I love what you did there Fathin ! Im following and helping upvote and resteem you! Anyone who wants, help me out too!
LOVE !
LOL. I mean, I personally wouldn't consider your posts great content. The formatting could use some work. And the content itself was kind of bland. What risk did you take? What part of yourself did you expose? What controversial opinion did you put forward?
I get it that most of your posts are "how to bake a cake" and "how I made this dress," and that's fine. I suppose the dress is unique and shareable if you're into fashion. If that's your niche then I would smash that button until it bleeds, but I don't think Steemit is the platform you should be focusing on. Instagram and Facebook are much better for that.
This is a blogging platform. If you're into fashion/makeup, start doing makeup tutorials on dtube. That's easy money and a no-brainer. Plenty of famous YTers got their start doing the same thing. I find it boring, but then again I'm not a girl and girls eat that shit up.
All that said... I am going to do something I rarely do on here, which is give you a genuine compliment. Ready? Here goes:
You are a hustler and you are working with what you have. You are reasonably attractive and post pictures of yourself that the boys will find nice to look at. You are actively promoting your business on my post, putting up lots of pictures of yourself to tell people that you exist.
You need to spend more on the upvote bots and clean up the formatting. Start pimping the Instagram more, set up an online store if you don't have one and start researching Facebook PPC ads. A lot of work, but you're on the right track. I may use you as an example in the future as someone who is at least trying to do the right thing.
I have to disagree with you. My posts do have great content, maybe just not the written part.
Steemit is not just for writers (like you). I am not a writer and do not intend to be a writer. I also don't want to do anything about my formatting.
There are enough talented creative people on steemit who are not born writers. Many of them, including me are here to show our work or talent(creative people). Not to be an excellent writer. So great content isn't just writing/formatting ( here on Steemit). If so, this platform would be super boring. I personally rarely read lengthy posts without any personal images.
Most of the time I like to read positive posts of other Steemians with a certain talent like artists, photographers, DIY-ers with many images of their work. Steemit is also for diy-ers, 3d designers, artists, photographers. We show our "Great Content" through images of our work. we don't need many words or be a good writer, that's not the focus of artists/designers. Instagram and Facebook? You're kidding me! I am not focusing on selling here on Steemit. Some of my followers or people who comment on my posts say I have to sell. I just want to share my passion here. If someone wants to buy, thats nice, but if not, I am fine too.
I am much more than being attractive and I am not here for the boys. I care less about boys. I have two boys myself ;-). I am also not interested in make up tutorials. (That's not the same as making custom made dresses)
Steemit is for everyone and you can't say who belongs here and who doesn't. Maybe Steemit isn't ready yet for creative people, but I hope I can make that change because otherwise this platform would be very boring if it's just for writing. As you can see, we all have different taste what we think is boring. I think this platform would be more interesting if there is a combination of everything: a guy who complaints about the people on Steemit, a mama who makes delicious muffins, a wife who can custom made clothes, a guy who likes to vlog, etc. I am interested in many different sorts of people/posts here. Hundreds of @yallapapi would be pretty boring as well as hundreds of @fathin-shihab. Wish you all the best and keep complimenting people here. I promise you, you will feel good about it. Just stay positive.
Lol. Never mind I take it all back
I would love to have the SP to upvote myself couple hundred everyday1 :D
Damn this was a good ass batch of motherfucking muffins.