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RE: Moving to hive
Hey, I want to be civil here so please no flagging, but that isn't the "model" of the trails. The trails do 'vote on authors of posts that deserve the votes based on the quality of their content', we upvote and support the authors whos content is featured and the rewards that go to the trails help them grow so their support to the minnows it worth more down the line. If the trails never grew, it would be impossible for them to offer any impactful support.
Even if the views are low on a particular post, does it not balance out when the trail hosts can now have a 1$ upvote for minnows and offer contests or challenges?
you guys are making your own posts with other peoples content and raking in HUNDREDS of dollars when the original posts are barely making double-digit figures.
I find this questionable behavior at best.
A percentage of the posts earnings at the very least should be shared among the creators whos content you made that money from. There is no excuse for this.
Does this mean you have talked to all the people featured to find out if they didn't have permission? A steemian will learn facts well before hurriedly concluding!
what it means is I know what i see
i see photos that do not belong to someone who made a post containing those photos, and now that post is pushing $400.
if the creators gave permission for them to make money off of their creations and not see a dime of it, then they are fucking morons.
If you are asking me, then yes. This has been noted in the trail repeatedly, to assure to ask all content creators for their feature.
No it doesn't 'balance out' you just need to take a look at the figures being moved out into exchanges from @trails and the figures being transferred into the acc from all the other -trail accounts to see something unfair is happening on a huge scale. You can see that the actual creators/authors are not getting anything like like figures, total bs about being for the community, they are for themselves otherwise why not split the rewards more fairly?
At what percentage? How much of your trail's influence is actually allocated to the users you upvote compared to your own -trail account?
For the trail I manage, 100%. I don't know what you mean upvoting my own account. When I log onto my trail I go to my tag, I go to new, and I start upvoting and resteeming articles that have good work and no plagiarism. I retain 100% of my vote power and usually start with NEW articles.
I understand your concerns, but for my trail (science-trail) all of my influence is allocated to the users who I upvote, and I don't feel as if I have don't anything other than try to offer support to the little guy. Even the first post I made powered up so that it would generate the most steem power out the gate, to help people down the road.
I didn't even get any payout on the 607 dollar post I created from scratch (nobody elses content), and the payout I would have gotten from the recent 350$ post, which I planned to reinvest to help grow myself as a reward for my community engagement has been diminished 150$ because of this attack. My trail isn't very old mind you, but I feel this is an adequate and fair course of action which has been unjustly harased.
So you are not one of the trails with links back to @trail or @steemtrails . You don't regularly transfer funds to either of them, then you are not doing anything wrong. There are many 'trails' who regularly transfer rewards to @trails, which is believed to be way in excess of actual author rewards that members of the respective trail receive. This is deemed an unfair 'theft' by many of the community.
Well, that isn't 100% accurate either. The owners of this system have had steemtrails in operation for months, they have other community projects to organize and other accounts to moderate. They claim a percentage of the 50/50 payouts which are the choice of the account owners.
I'm glad that you can recognize that there isn't anything inherently villainous to the project . The members of the community that deem this unfair theft by the community have to understand that the excess generated by the reputation of the trail is the same as any other steemit account. No system can operate to the size of steemtrails without compensating the users who allow it to operate, that is why many of the hardworking users part of the project are speaking out agaisnt an unfair attack on their accounts, like me.