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RE: Self-Voting: Scammy Behavior, Rational ROI, or Something Else?

in #steemit7 years ago

If you don't upvote yourself in the posts or replies, you reduce your chances of being seen.

I say upvote yourself imo.

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And if you upvote your comment you reduce the chances of others of being seen. :)

Was it OK to upvote myself to increase my chances? ;)

I understand that feeling, and I share it to an extent, though I don't often upvote my own comments.

However, it irks me when people upvote themselves far more than they share the love. Worst of all, when people will upvote their own comments without upvoting the post they commented on.

Exactly what @sethlinson says, and a quick glance at your history @sephiroth, it looks like you upvote others at least 3 or 4 times as often as you upvote yourself. No issues there. I think the main debate and concern is those who are the opposite of your ratio, and simply "mining" Steem with low quality content and self votes.

I'll quote Justice Potter Stewart of the Supreme Court when he ruled on an obscenity case in 1964.

I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description ["hard-core pornography"](abusive self voting), and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture (Steem User) involved in this case is not that.

(Bolded substitutions mine for the analogy!)

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I try to upvote content that I like more than the stuff I have. I think it is selfish if they just upvote themselves especially if they do not upvote the thread that they responded in.

This makes me laugh since I am the biggest prude on the planet. I see porn everywhere now! Nothing to do with steemit but the very reason all major media is out of my life now :)

Right on. I always upvote the main post if I even bother to reply to it before upvoting myself.

As someone who previously built a minnow account up to 15,000 SP, I call BS on that claim. I got visibility by engagement and following and periodically feeding my audience with more positive and helpful feedback (account @l0k1). And I am doing it again, with a new account, although once a week I will have a boost of 85 Steem... In fact, I am just going to be cashing that out, to make sure I keep my fiat surplus ahead of my costs. I'm moving again next month. So most of the growth of this new account will be also organic.

I also like that for the most part, big accounts have stopped playing God so much with new accounts. I am sure that at least a quarter of that big gain I made over 6 months was just ned, bernie, xeldal and others, attempting to reward people for joining the network. There is some aspects of what should be going on that are purely a matter of custom, there is no way to enforce it algorithmically.