RE: 2019 STEEM silver round now on SALE
Oh look new steem showed up! Funny thing is they didn't show up on the steem round website. Just who is new steem for? This is a non profit project that is putting steem and steemit on a 1oz silver coin. This is absolutely absurd to get downvoted, maybe if the #newsteem made it easier to get a post featured then people like @ssg-community would not have to use a vote service. Its not about the money, its about getting the word out about the project and the Steem Silver Round. Hell we have gone as far as to get a steem silver round in the hands of Ned and the New Managing Director of steemit, you would think that we would atleast get a comment or a resteem or even a featured post. I guess the newsteem is for the oldsteem. @talfalgar I am sure you are a good person but I would love to hear the reason for the flag and not the support. #removetheflags
Here something for you @talfalgar, reach out to me in discord aand I will send you a 2019 steem round at no charge. I am confident in this because I know once you hold one you will understand the reason for doing the Steem Silver Round series.
Don’t forget about @andrarchy !
I DM'd him to see if he could help out with a featured post but he has not wrote me back yet :'(
I guess he is busy
There is a decent chance he will respond if he can. I spoke to him about #SSG in person and explained the round and the community
I wait and see. Like you sound, he prob get hit with hundreds of DM's and comment
The coin is that big? Whoa. 🤔 Lemme see if I can buy even one. Haha.
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Could not have put it better myself Ray
This post should not be downvoted at all and if #newsteem see it fit to downvote this sort of post for using bidding services to expand the reach of the message, then i'll stick with #oldsteem.
Then the downvotes shouldn't matter. You're still on the trending page. It's fine if you want to think what you're doing is far more important than thousands of other accounts here, if that's how you roll. With so many prominent figures holding up such bling, you'd think reaching the trending page organically should be a breeze, if it was as big of a deal as claimed to be.
That's what upvoting organically is attempting to achieve. If you'd prefer to go back to a system where people were paid to look away instead of being paid to actually look, so you can pay a middleman to place your work on a page that lost the consumer's trust, so be it. You'd have a handful of noobs here congratulating you and saying "nice post" because they think you're actually popular. And after you're done receiving this pile of disingenuous praise, you realize not one of them actually purchased anything. Meanwhile, nobody else saw it because they were sick of viewing ads and shit posts on the trending page.
There's a huge demand for organically popular posts reaching top slots and at the same time there's a demand for advertising space. You know what the end game here is? The best of both worlds instead of two worlds colliding.
Are we talking organically by nature or organically by friends. Whats the difference in bot votes or friend votes. You would figure that there would be a process in place to get a post featured, it would be very intresting to find out who holds the keys to featuring a post.
Oh I see. You're the type who will downplay the efforts of those getting anywhere organically, assuming it's not what they did, but who they know.
It's either bot votes or friend votes? You're insulting the integrity of all those who did nothing more than post, and you're insulting the integrity of all those who did nothing more than vote.
You couldn't be further from the truth. This post was about bring awareness to a NON profit project that directly involves and represent the steemit community. We work endless hours to bring positve things to the platform only to have it fall on deaf ears and blind eyes. To downvote a post that was not read is crazy. There was a comment also made on this post that said " I would have given this post 100% upvote and I know other that would have" only to down vote it for bot use. So this is not a #newsteem project or steeminc project, that does not make less important or irrelevant. Three years this project ha been going on with very little attention, its ashame that bots had to be used to get the attention.
I was responding to your wording in a comment, not the post. I called you out on some BS. You don't need to disrespectful to everyone based upon the actions of a few.
That's great but if someone selling not for profit cookies started demanding I pay attention to them, that's not going ensure sales and if they become forceful, I'd have them removed from my property. That doesn't mean I won't buy cookies, ever. It just means I'll only buy the cookies from someone who isn't acting like a dick.
That sounds like the majority of content producers I've met over the years. Things recently started to change for them and I expect to see that change carry on and gather more momentum.
I read the post. Next time I'd like to see a little more attention focused on the formatting department. It looks like shit when it's all centered like that.
Yup. That's a shame. So now people want to curate again. Throwing them under the bus for doing so doesn't make sense, if that's what you truly want.
What you're doing is probably good but the high pressure sales tactics now being imposed on the community where one must either like this or be vilified won't get you too far with me. I read the post. Reading the comments and the reaction to the downvotes combined with the words used against said downvoters is what led to myself downvoting the post. I just thought, "Damn. It seems like these folks have a real chip on their shoulders."
I hope you got the attention you crave and in the future I hope to see the community support this naturally, if they truly see value in it. If they don't, that is not their fault, it is yours. Demanding they see the value won't get you far at all.
Well it kinda played out just how we thought it would. We knew going into it that there would be downvotes and thats fine after all we are supposed to be decentralized. Each and every steemian is free to do what they want to do. But I think you are making an unfair assumption about me and the ssg group and thats fine as well, after all we are free to feel and do what we want. You seem like a good person and I respect your stand on this situation. I am sure you can see and tell that we are just as dedicated to what we believe in. On that note, I'll ask you this, do you own any Silver? Cause that is what I am about and ssg is about, bringing awareness to an majorly undervalued asset. If you dont have any Silver and you live in the states, I'll ship you one of these 2019 Steem rounds. I believe wholeheartedly in this project and live by the moto of "if you cant hold it, you don't own it."
You're a funny guy, Ray. I do respect you folks. I wouldn't be speaking to you if I didn't respect you.
I'm not being unfair. If you can dish it out, you can take it.
I don't live in the USA. Silver is pretty cool though. I like it. It's shiny.
I can take it, UK or Australia area maybe. By the way I have no hard feelings.. cheers🍻
I'm sorry, but I only accept silver of purity of at least 99.9993% :)
I think these coins you've minted are really cool. The downvotes are entirely a response to the bid bot stacking on this post.
For the vision of Steem to work, content creators need to be able compete fairly in a level playing field for the attention and votes of stakeholders. Only through this process can we reward content based on its appeal which can hopefully lead to higher incentives to produce better content, more eyeballs, a higher price, higher still incentives to produce even better content etc.
When vote buying became normalized, this process of a potentially positive feedback loop was completely undermined. On the one hand people made a profit the more they bid on their post. On the other hand vote sellers were getting returns in line with 100% self voting. Effectively the process of transferring value over to good content creators was severed, and we were left with a broken system. This is the predominant reason why stakeholders such as myself, now armed with free downvotes, are fighting to restore honest voting over vote buying/trading as the norm. Because only then is it possible for proof-of-brain to even have a chance of working.
As you can see from smooth's response, a project like yours can gain traction and generate immense interest and support without resorting to vote buying which severely undermines the integrity of our system (even though in this case you got his interest by undermining the integrity of our system, but ignore that part for the sake of my argument :p).
Thank you for your understanding.
Why is this comment being downvoted and hidden? Even though I don't agree with the downvote on this post, his comment (explanation) is valid.