Mechanism needed to combat trolls
So in light of the (apparently ongoing) abuse that @feminism has been throwing at @lauralemons, surely there are changes to the steemit platform that can be made to help combat fuckwits( mind my french) like this?
In the absence of a moderator, would a mechanism such as auto-banning anyone that has a reputation under a certain level, like for instance if they are negative? That would stop trolls being able to run around and post vile stuff on peoples posts and might even help clean up some of the spam bots.
Thoughts?
If you don't want to see something from someone, you can just mute them.
Allowing for account bans opens up a whole mess of worms. Destructive to the ecosystem.
Trolls will always have a voice... it will just be worthless here, and noone will care what they're saying.
Better than an alternative, like Facebook or Twitter where a faceless entity can ban your account for not abiding by the Political Correctness codes of the moment.
My first thought is anarchists will cry that all sensorship is wrong. My second thought is that assholes, not people who you disagree with, but people who are being mean to other people should be downvoted to shit by all who are aware of the asshole. And my third thought is that if steemit grows to a million users, we'll have moderators anyway. More money,more problems.
Is it really censorship. I mean it takes a special kind of turdburglar to get into negative rep.
Plus I can only see this kind of harassment being a hindrance to the site growing if nothing is done about it.
It's a complicated issue. I haven't followed the current situation you're talking about, but did see the previous iteration with the earnest account. And yes, I agree that it's horrible to see someone being harassed within a community you're apart of.
But - I don't think it does take a lot to get a negative rep score. If only a couple of accounts (with higher rep) continuously downvote/flag you can drop a user to below zero. My concern is that the second you start to take away someone's voice, you give up the right to your own.
But this is only for the 'bad' people. Perhaps theoretically, but in reality you can use the same method to silence almost anyone (maybe not stellabelle with her amazing reputation score). For example my account is nothing particularly special, but my rep is currently higher, so I vote you down, maybe get another account or two and do the same. Now what you say is hidden and you no longer have a voice on steemit. What i think you're proposing (and to some extent it already exists) is a toolset that will allow Trolls to not just harass, but silence others.
Perhaps allowing users to simply mute other users so they don't see the comments would achieve a similar result whilst minimising the downside? The comments of people with negative reps are already hidden/greyed-out. maybe allowing users to mute + shadowban particular users from commenting on their own posts only might also reign things in. For example, I could add users to a ban/mute list so that their comments didn't show up on my posts only?
I don't have an answer to this, but i like the discussion and hope others will chime in, maybe with examples that have worked in other online communities.
I like that idea. Give users the ability to kind of moderate their own content.
Yeah. Kind of like your posts are your platform. You don't have to share that with everyone if you don't wish too. But you're not silencing them from posting their own content, you just don't need to have abuse all over 'your' posts.
I think it also helps to curve the 'echo chamber' effect a little. I like reading the posts/comments of people i don't necessarily agree with or having a discussion with someone who has a completely different point of view. But i don't like seeing personal attacks/abuse that can't ever actually contribute anything of value. In this case, it doesn't allow me to silence someone across the whole platform for having a different opinion, but it would allow me to stop someone being abusive on my posts in particular.
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