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RE: 🚩Steemcleaners ABUSE or MALFUNCTION? Honest People are getting Flagged Unfairly - CENSORSHIP under the guise of anti-spam? - Are YOU supporting Steemcleaners by upvoting? Perhaps you should reconsider. Proof inside. WHALES PLEASE HELP!! 🚩

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I was once mistakenly tagged for "tag spam", but my tags were dead-on accurate to the post. I was not flagged for it, and this was over 3 months ago.

I think these errors are probably false positives and unintended.

I can confirm that Steemcleaners is a group, at least 4 people have access to the account. There is one user in particular in charge of the flagging, if memory serves. That is why they may be active, but unable to respond accurately to these queries.

I would suggest trying the appropriate Steemit abuse chat channel instead.

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Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it.

It may be true that they are false positives and unintended, but I am not sure that is a price we should be paying. From my quick and not-all-that-thorough investigation I found far too many dubious cases. I can only conclude that moderation is far too tough and not enough investigation is done to actually determine if abuse is going on. It's a system of guilty until proven innocent... and that kind of police state is the opposite of what Steemit is supposed to be I hope..

For my own case I did try several ways of contacting. But after doing investigation and seeing people who hadn't been answered for days, even weeks, I lost hope of getting an answer myself and decided to post my findings on here instead.

Assuming everything here is as you say, (and I see no reason not to,) I can't disagree. I didn't have much to add on the philosophy side beyond what you did, so I had to settle for kicking in a few facts.

The reason I know about Steemcleaners is one of the witnesses is a "staff member". Anyx, I think.

We haven't released this entry yet but I'll give it to you, in case you want to search further:

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#11 - @Anyx

Anyx is the owner and operator of the venerable @cheetah, a plagiarism-stalking predator that we have all come across (hopefully not on our own posts.) Cheetah has saved me, personally, substantial time in googling plagiarized content for authenticity, so for that I say thank you, Anyx and Cheetah.

Fun fact about @cheetah: It’s proprietary AI is actually quite expensive to run on a recurring basis! It wouldn’t hurt to give Cheetah the occasional upvote when you see it.

Anyx is also heavily involved in the SteemCleaners initiative, which works relentlessly to clean up all forms of abuse on the Steemit platform, such as spam, plagiarism, and post-stealing/identity theft.

When Anyx has time, he primarily posts about travel and photography. His Chicago series has been particularly popular. (My personal favorite was the Lincoln Park Zoo post. )

Anyx is a Peerplays Witness.

Anyx is holding 27,000 SP and is currently powering down.

Anyx’s Current Witness + Cheetah Update Thread: https://steemit.com/witness-category/@anyx/anyx-cheetah-and-steemcleaners-witness-update-2017-06-14
Anyx’s Original Witness Thread: https://steemit.com/witness-category/@anyx/witness-application-anyx
Anyx’s Zoo Post: https://steemit.com/photography/@anyx/chicago-part-6-lincoln-park-zoo-continued

Thanks for the info, I will look into it tomorrow. Have to go to bed now!

It's a system of guilty until proven innocent... and that kind of police state is the opposite of what Steemit is supposed to be I hope..

This is very terrible type of system... but I'm pretty sure it's the only one we can have for now.

without something like steemcleaners, I'm sure you'll hardly find any good post compared to the many scam posts out there. if this isn't happening now... it will!!

I disagree... I don't think it will be so bad if we don't have steemcleaners per se.

The whole point of curation is that quality content gets voted up. If it's truly a crap post then nobody will be voting on it and it will disappear into nothingness anyway. For example, on my Feed I don't get any spam or crap posts. And when I do, I unfollow that person. Problem solved?
This is how Steemit is intended to be I think?

If we're banning people for posting a referral code for a project that they're excited in, under the guise of 'it may be a scam'... then seriously we should start banning anybody who speaks scientology, or spouts conspiracy theories too.. The whole point of non censorship is that nobody can tell you what to talk about..

Thanks you made me look at the this in another way:

The whole point of curation is that quality content gets voted up. If it's truly a crap post then nobody will be voting on it and it will disappear into nothingness anyway.