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RE: Screw Malicious Flagging: 1 Flag Vs 130+ Votes
@tarquinmaine I agree, I think flag weight should be calculated on a percentage vs positive votes, and not take into account SP.
@tarquinmaine I agree, I think flag weight should be calculated on a percentage vs positive votes, and not take into account SP.
How would you deal with multiaccounts then?
It's doesn't not does it take into account bot votes or otherwise inorganic voting. This idea would not work in practice.
Ya, why can't the system simply put a formula taking into the ratio of positive vs negative votes, multiply by the SP of the voter. So if that's only 1 negative vote out of the eventual 100 positive ones, then the SP is 1/100 of the voter. Or else simply just put a limit of the maximum SP one can downvote for a post, regardless of how much SP he has.
because that would let people cheat by smurfing, you cant pit 100 small votes against a major shareholder flagging, the flagger made a big investment in steem and has a right to use each inidividual share freely
Many are saying so but I am of a different opinion. Within a state there should apply rules valid for everybody, rich or poor. To be rich doesn't give you the right to punish or suppress anybody who is poor just for fun for example. The same should apply for the Steemit platform where I think should be implemented some (software) rules to prevent that big accounts damage smaller accounts in an arbitrary way. I have nothing against investors to earn money (actually I am an investor myself), but I am against arbitrary flags or flags with the only intention to damage a certain user.
Furthermore it is true that (money) investors invested money, but it is also true that many other people invested for example much time or thoughts with the aim to improve Steemit. Money isn't everything which counts, and in addition I think that if we are able to create a platform where people like to stay and post and don't feel threatened by arbitrary flags, in the long run that will actually lead to an increase of the STEEM price (and thus would help the investors, too).
I agree!
on steem you can gather riches by taking part even if you are poor, and grow your share in voting
money isn't everything on steem, but share holders decide where the dividends should get spent on, and everyone is a shareholder including you :), its not such a bad system once you aclimate your personal reservations about it.
The problem is if a bigger account randomly (for example because of a different opinion concerning any topic) decides to flag all posts of a smaller account and prevent him from earning anything. Then that has nothing to do with quality of his articles or with preventing spam or plagiarism, but is nothing else than personal hostility.
When talking about Steemit we often hear the word 'censorship-free', but in reality real discussions between bigger and smaller accounts aren't often taking place because the smaller ones fear to get flagged if they defend their point of views too persistently.
What would you think if I decide to flag all your articles from now on? Would you really say to yourself "OK, @jaki01 is the bigger stake holder, he should do whatever he likes with his money which includes flagging me."?
Yes it is a good idea not to interfere too much with the big investors since they own lots of voting shares, it might cause you to have to create a new account to continue making money or square things up with the person who owns a lot more of the network than you do. He has a right to vote for dividends not to reach you, he owns voting shares after all. You can also have voting shares all you need to do is keep posting or invest.
Just remember that if an investor votes for rewards not to pay out for you that voting shares get used to do that, voting shares need to be used for what you believe should be rewarded and not rewarded on steem, its voting, you are indicating that some people have more power than you to vote, yes they do, you can gain more power to vote too.
I know that. Did you actually check my Steem power? ... I am not really a beginner here anymore ... :-) (And that's not the only account I am using ...) I am not complaining because of my own rewards.
In theory everybody can invest himself to have more influence here ... in theory ... in reality, not.
I think small accounts should be protected against an arbitrary use of flags. I guess we have to agree to disagree here ...
I'm not really disagreeing with you, I'm just saying interesting things, I don't hold very strong beliefs in either direction actually, well met and followed jaki01 coincidentally I did check out your account and was in fact hoping that you would state your thoughts so it gets detailed nicely for those reading :)
I'm sure there will be wales who wouldn't be against making services that can level the playing field, in a way many are already experimenting with ways to fairly boost promising users, perhaps even correct arbitrary flags etc, since its good for the network, I think we both feel a yearning for more of that on steem.
another very good suggestion made on this very thread was if flags had a cost, that would really help a lot in my opinion