To be honest I don't think about veganism too deeply anymore because I think they are a type of extremist-- lol. I think the idea is that as far as the honey goes commercial extraction means that the honey the bees have worked to produce for their winter ration store from the nectar they collect is being replaced with a sugar water solution. With less nutrition means weakened emune systems. Some worry about colony collapse disorder and the crisis with the bees is part result of our agriculture/horticulture.

I think some vegans would argue if we could of just stayed out of anothers species business we could of avoided the problem kinda deal.