RE: Has anyone even asked Ned? - Steemian Festivals - SteemFest 3 Dilema
While I was listening I was trying to understand the intent of the complaints because the conversation was close to ridiculous I'm not sure I am correct.
These are some of the issues that stood out to me:
Some are concerned that holding 3 Steemfests in Europe is inconvenient for much of our user base, and Europe isn't even where most of our userbase resides.
rolandp's clear response was this has to do with the overall budget of the event and being able to spend less for more in Poland than the US.
That point somehow morphed into: if they are all going to be held in Europe, maybe the location should remain the same, in an attempt to standardize the event. Amsterdam was suggested because it is a desirable destination with an Airport serving more cities via direct flights.
From here the conversation went to who is funding Steemfest and whether or not the community should have any say in the matter. I've never gotten the impression that SteemIt Inc feels they owe us any explanation of what they do with their stake.
I gathered that rolandp was stating he has organized the event on his own and SteemIt, Inc has decided to help fund it and if people were unhappy with the location or venue they could feel free to create their own event and lobby SteemIt, Inc for funds. (This is my impression of the response and does not necessarily represent rolandp.
I understand people are disappointed in the location and some even question the funding. I think it is a compliment to rolandp and the event that people felt so strongly about the situation. Yet, I have zero desire to see Poland in the Winter nor am I willing to spend the time and funds it would take to get there. In my opinion I would give both sides a point on this level.
I don't have any expectations of SteemIt, Inc justifying their budget to the community, so I don't hold any position on that level.
In summary, I agree with what you are saying, someone should consider planning another event and ask @ned if SteemIt, Inc would like to participate.
lol, thanks for adding some sanity to the conversation.
Thanks whatsup I totally agree in your summary, it leaves out many of the hatespeech thrown at me :P - getting that on some typed comment is one thing, but having that shouted in your face another :P.
I elaborate a bit myself about those "strong feelings" you mention in a paragraph elsewhere in my longer response on this post from meno.
Afaik Steemit inc sponsors multiple events and I think that is what most of the blockchains do. They sponsor not only monetarily but also by having people at those events present. Only this week already I saw several posts from Steemit employees being or going to events (both in the US actually :P).
So yes I did reach out to Steemit inc, you can see this in my original announcement for SF1 where I paste my reachout email. (linking to busy, because the formatting due to < code > < / code > tags is a bit weird on Steemit.com for this one: https://busy.org/@roelandp/save-the-date-steemfest-1-11-12-13-november-2016-amsterdam-nl
Btw. just to be factual: Winter starts in Poland on 21st of December. So with the start of SteemFest 3 - on 7 November we are exactly 45 days (or at 50%) of autumn in the Northern Hemisphere!
lol. @rolandp I stand corrected on the dates of Winter. :) I wish you great success with SteemFest.
Yes, I cleaned up the summary. :)
I'm told I heard nothing compared to what was discussed.... and maybe I should be grateful. But honestly, my intention was, and still is to help people understand we are all in this together. Maybe on that common goal we can build something good, thats it.
I won't be going either, but its more a financial thing for us. I would not mind seeing Europe for the first time.
To be clear I am not a huge fan of conferences and although I am very happy it happens, I likely would attend unless it was somewhere amazing or really close.
Yes, we are in it together. Pretty frightening if you had heard the first part of the conversation. lol.