The Art of Commenting


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Writing comments on others' posts is an important part of participating in the STEEM ecosystem and in the blogosphere in general. At first when we think of commeting, many tend to imagine a few lines. Maybe a sentence or a happy face emoji. Some of us think of long paragraphs. Paragraphs that are deeply thought-out and full of helpful information. Others invision a meme or a funny image.

Commenting differs greatly platform to platform. On YouTube, for example, it is perfectly acceptable to write something overly-critical in a one-line reply. On Facebook those rows of happy faces and one word responses are just fine. On LinkedIn the paragraphs with informational links and mentions are quite common. But what about on the STEEM platforms? Is there a norm? Is there an ideal that we should strive to reach?

To delve into this mystey let's first take a closer look at what we consider to be an abusive use of the comment function.

Comment Spam

You may have seen this reply in the comment section of your blog or even to your own comment:

Spamming comments is frowned upon by the community. Comment spam is currently defined as:

  • 10 or more generic comments per day that are not in response to a question posed by the post or comment. “Thanks”, “Great Post!”, “Great Photo!”, “Good”, “Like”, “Nice”, “Wow”, “Cute”, “Follow me”, etc.
  • Commenting on old posts to hide self up-votes or a voting trail.
  • Copy/Paste comments that serve no purpose or the purpose is self promotion (including copying and pasting similar comments in rotating way).
  • Comments that inform the contributor that they have been up upvoted, resteemed, or flagged when the curator does not actually upvote, resteem, or flag the post.
  • Unsolicited and off topic referral links.
    Continued comment spamming may result in action from the cheetah bot.
    More Info: Abuse Guide - 2017.

Let's go through this in detail.

Generic Comments

Generic comments like "nice post" or "wow" don't add any value. They don't engage with the post writer, they don't ask a question or propose a solution, they do nothing except exist. There are many reasons why a person would write such a generic comment. They could speak very little English or have nothing more to say.

These generic comments become spam when they are the rule rather than the exception. A user who posts nothing but generic comments, irrespective of topic, situation, or language used, can be inferred as doing so with the clear intention to spam.

Commenting on Old Posts

Sometimes users comment on old posts without realizing these are old posts or simply because the post still interests them. More often than not, unfortunately, users do so with the intent of comment farming.

The act of comment farming is the systemic posting of copy/pasted or gibberish comments and upvoting them. This is done to illicitly gain monetary or reputational rewards.

Copy/Pasting Self-Promotion Comments

Comments like "I follow you, you follow me" or "Vote for my blog" are purely self-promotional and add nothing to the original post. Often we think of only new users when we think of this type of comments. That is not always the case. Regardless of whom is doing it, copy/pasted self-promotional comments are not acceptable and are treated as spam.

False Comments

Comments that advise the post owner that a transaction had taken place without said transaction having occurred -- such as a resteem -- are treated as spam. These comments are malicious in that they are designed to trick an individual who wrote the blog to either upvote the comment or to return the favor that never occurred.

Unsolicited Links

These can be referral links or links to the commenter's post. The sole purpose of these is for the commenter to profit outside of having their comment upvoted.

At times they lead to malicious third party websites that download viruses or trick individuals to reveal their STEEM account passwords. For this reason, comments with unsolicited links are particularly dangerous. It is considered best-practice to avoid clicking on any links in comments.

Comment Etiquette

It is always advised to write thoughtful, original comments that are about the post itself. They should be at least a sentence in length. Longer comments are acceptable but it is best to limit their length to several paragraphs unless involved in a deep discussion.

Posting images in comments is popular but not always adviseable. Images in comments should only be used if they serve a specific purpose. Adding them to make the comment stand out is not recommended and may result in a flag.

Comments can be in any language but it's always best to write them either in English or in the language used by the post writer. A writer who wrote a post in Korean, for example, will be able to read a comment written in Korean by another language-speaker.

Always remember that the purpose of commenting is to respond to the original post. The comment should add value and say something that needs to be said.

Tags and Mentions

Using in-line tags in comments does not effectively tag your comment. What it does is link to that tag. If relevant to your comment, it is fully acceptable to use a tag. If irrelevant, it simply makes no sense.

Mentions are similar. Not all users have their mentions settings, typically adjusted through a third-party service, set up in a way where they monitor them. If the person does and the mention is irrelevant, they may not be too pleased about it. All mentions should be relevant to the context of the comment and the post itself.

Upvoting Own Comments

Upvoting comments and upvoting posts works in the same way. It is perfectly acceptable to upvote your own comment if you feel its deserving of an upvote providing you do not abuse that privilege. Voting on own high-quality content (including comments) is acceptable as the general principle is to curate content you feel deserves a reward. If you wrote an extensive response to a post and then upvoted it, you are stating that you feel that the effort that went into your comment is valuable.

Systemic upvoting of own low-quality comments, either strung together or distributed amongst various posts, can be seen as comment farming (described above) and a form of abuse. It is also considered to be poor etiquette.

This is an example of a Comment Farm.

Can Comments Be Flagged?

Yes, comments can and are frequently flagged. Comments that fall into the abuse categories listed above can receive a @Steemcleaners or @Spaminator warning or even flag. More commonly, low-quality comments or comments some people may see as "annoying" are flagged by the readers and writer of the post. For that reason, ensuring that you only post good-quality comments is best.

Examples

High-Quality Comments

Here is an example of an average, good comment to a post. In this example, the post is a poem:

Thank you for sharing your poem 'Silent Music'. I got chills reading it! It reminded me of a time when I was young and broke a Beatles record in half. It shattered just like the tree you eloquently described. I know that's a bit silly. Very well crafted, my friend.

Low-Quality Comments

These are low-quality comments. They don't add anything to the discussion at hand or have anything in particular to do with the original post.

@__ follow me I follow you

Good post!

I vote 4 u visit my blog vote 4 me

This is an example of a Low-Quality Comment.


More Information:

The Game of Tags
Appealing the Blacklist



Do you have specific topics that you'd like @steemcleaners to address and clarify in our future posts? Let us know in the comments.

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Thanks to @inquiringtimes for sharing with me the link to this post. It is an incredible post about commenting. The fact that it comes from Steem Cleaners account shows the educational effort by the team that is known for policing the system.

I have seen great comments and bad comments a lot. I upvote good ones anr flag the bad ones to keep them at the bottom. Almost all of my posts have a hierarchy based on quality of comments. The worst comments are always found at the bottom.

I know a lot of effort has been done to educate the community about good commenting habits. This guide adds another resource to an incredible library for anyone who wishes to make good use of it. I even shared a detailed guide on how NOT to comment and the focus was to help people avoid flags.

I am a regular preacher of good commenting habits. I practice what I preach since the very beginning and it has paid me a lot in a lot of ways. Already resteemed this post for wider consumption.

Hi ilyastarar,
That's very nice to hear that our guides have been useful to you :-)
It seems that you also add a lot of value to this platform by the way that you try to diminish spamming content with no value :-)
Thank you for resteeming too :-)

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even shared a detailed guide on how NOT to comment and the focus was to help people avoid flags.

Brilliant, I actually got a smile out of that also!!!!

Finally steemcleaners post something to educate steemians on how to behave on steemit as regard commenting. I am so happy to see this post and will resteem so as many can get to learn from reading the post.

Many of these low comment people do not actually know they are spamming. Many people have join steemit without any guild on how to go about posting, upvote and commenting on steemit.
@steemcleaners, it will be nice if you also do a post to educate steemians(especially newbies) on post abuse and plagiarism. Or maybe have a rule/stroke guide to newbies.

Omg I used to comment this way but now I will take care of that. Thank u @steemcleaners for clearing this problem.

I had similar thoughts and wanted to write a post on same. As a newbie I often have dilemma of quantity over quality and I've reduced the number of posts and refrain from posting anything for the sake of it.

What I've compensated it by commenting and supporting posts I love and replying to each of those posts. Even though I didn't get those upvotes and earning on my posts but I can proudly say I met people with common interests and turned them to followers. Last week I didn't post anything really astonishing in terms of content but I know I gained 20 followers and that really means a lot to a struggling newbie like myself

Hello thenomadictales,

Thank you for your comment. The way you contribute to this community is very valuable :-)

Thank you. That really means a lot

I'm scared to comment :) JK, great post. Being a steemit beginner I'm glad I can find posts like this to help me out. I didn't even realize you could upvote comments until reading this. lol

Good thing you found it and you are the first to comment as well.

i am more suprised that the first poster actually even read the article. lol

It's quite unusual these days.

I was going to just post a "follow me" but chickened out. I hate having to use a /s to note sarcasm.

Sometimes in my post, I actually write near the bottom something like...

... I know nobody is hardly reading articles here anymore but I appreciate when they do etc....

You are right, it changed a long time ago.......

Some great replies in here, this post got a lot of mileage helping people I see.

I commented at the person above who said they are scared to comment, LOL, I remember feeling scared when I joined hahaha!!!!

Aw, that is funny but I remember being new and feeling scared here too LOL

comments on steemit is different from other platforms like youtube and facebook, because comments in this steemit is considered as a post similar to the post on the blog itself, then should the quality of a comment should be as good as posting on our own blog steemit, so read other people's posts before making good comments, so we know what to comment on, not just spam comments that we can post

Exactly mate, like you said it differs greatly. On steemit you are expected to make an impression with your comment, some would say pour your heart on it. Comments can be as rewarding as the post too and not just about the reward you leave an impression for the author and others who would come across your comment. Greatly helps. The two words comments don't do well at all

Listen what this man says!

I'm a noob here and i don't have writing skills and I'm not so creative but i can talk about several subjects, so when i se blog about science or grat project initiative i read post and comment if i feel i have something to say.

I have to tell you that i have tried also to comment without reading and this dont work.

It's better to read a blogs and write one or two comments a day than to write 20 or 50 comments without reading blog.

It will pay off on your balance and rating points!

Hello mandalacode. Thank you for this valuable comment.
You are very right that quality commenting rather than quantity is important and more valuable :-)

thanks for the information. so I as a new steemit user directly see your post even though I read this through translate. but it's really amazing your upbringing. after I read and understand all the writing that is here this new I know how we actually use steemit. thanks for the information. wassalam
@steemcleaners

Thank you for reading and we honestly hope that it helps you get familiar with Steem.

Ikuti saya dan saya sudah mengikuti anda.
Sehingga saya bisa belajar lebih banyak dari Anda

I was doing the same as I am new user on Steemit I was not aware of it
Now I will take care of these mistakes .. thanku for sharing sach a helpful information
Thanku

Thank you for your experience and your guides for which we are beginning in this world, which I love, every day I learn something new and I am clearer, you never finish learning, those who invented steemit are extraordinary ... without words

Thank you, glad you're learning and enjoying it.