RE: Open letter to @steemalliance and private "witness-slack" community
the Steemalliance which is referenced in this post and the “slack dump” you are referring to are not in the same location. Whether the same people are involved or not could be easily seen by reading both transcripts. It’s all out there in the open.
The conversations had about the @steemalliance idea are listed in their entirety in the post linked, as I responded to in your comment there. Most of your questions about who made the account and who’s idea it was can be found in that transcript as well. I’m not sure if you have read it?
The rest of the questions cannot be answered as nothing has been decided yet (as said in the post linked). There is no talk of one leader and currently all nominations are coming from the community (including yourself). This is an attempt to move forward it the best way possible, no decisions have been made. All conversations on the topic can be found in this post
The only thing not included is where Ned went into servers asking for nominations, which could be easily found by looking. As they were just the screenshot at the top of the post followed by individuals nominating those names listed in the post, there isn’t much to find.
I’ve tried to answer your questions the best I can. Transcript of everything in the room will be posted tomorrow. Hopefully soon there will be an open to the public location for these conversations, but transcripts to the chain will continue for transparency.
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Oh, god, how many private slack servers we have? Thanks for the heads up, I have edited the post accordingly. Separated the questions.
It's not possible for the community to select/nominate without knowing what they're actually nominating. It's good to take things into the action but this looks like so pre-mature at the moment.
No. Logs shows some people talking about creating steem alliance. But it doesn't show why do we have #steem-governance channel on that server? Who're the founders of the server? What was happening on the servers in other channels? Which users can read these channels? etc.
How is it any different than belonging to several discords? I'm sure many have discords they do not invite everyone to.
Many slacks exist owned by private individuals, not all are secret.. they are just like a discord server.
The server where the transcript (in the @steemalliance post) came from is the Steemit Inc. Dev slack, after the comment was made publicly about the call for nominations by Ned, he collected names. After 24hrs or so that channel was created and the names were added there. The channel did not exist before the transcript states. No talks about it were held elsewhere. Aggroed set the channel topic as seen there and that was it.
The idea was more of a foundation (as described by Ned in his public call, which I will try to find an additional screenshot of, but he quoted himself in the transcript). That helps to organize funds to help with the development of the chain. “Governance” May not be the right word. As said in the transcript, all names may change.. it’s just a place holder to get it started.
This all happened 4hrs before the post went up and as you can see from the transcript the goal was to get the post out, get as much of the community involved, then start making plans. The nominations are simply for individuals who would be interested in or thought to be good in something like this.
Many may decide to not want to be involved or additional roles may be needed for specific tasks etc.
The Steemit dev slack is owned by Steemit Inc and is home to Top witnesses, backup witnesses, devs, and a few community members plus the Steemit Inc staff. My understanding is it’s where communications happen for hardforks among other things. I can’t speak for Steemit Inc. but since I have a slack server I do know that only a limited amount of people are allowed before it starts to cost a good amount of money per person to have it. Maybe that’s why. Or maybe they needed a place for top 20 to all be in the same room to make decisions. That’s about all I can answer on the specific slack as it’s not mine.
It will not be the home to this community @steemalliance though, as was said in the post. The group will have a separate home that is open to the public and as soon as it’s up, a link will be posted.
I hope that the full transcript plus the very open answers will continue to help individuals see this group is attempting to stop all the back room secret talks and instead bring this organization to the community and be a part of that community.
Thanks for the detailed answer and a better context. Looking forward to seeing more about the @steemalliance.
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You’re welcome 🙂
Do you not understand that the Steem community consists of people who are free to communicate with each other however the hell they want?
I would imagine across the entire community there are MANY slacks and other communications vehicles represented, which range in size from very small, maybe even 2-3 people, to very large.
True and I have no objection to that.