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RE: INTRODUCING VIPER: Sound, video, and blogging platform using STEEM and IPFS

in #steem7 years ago

So. Essentially yet another steem frontend with a strange whitepaper and marketing budget.
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Not really, LBRY and IPFS also are primary systems.
No marketing budget, quality and enjoyment is our marketing.

So quality and enjoyment delivered $800 upvotes to the post?

Whats your problem with how they spend their assets?

Yes man, bots has been funded by a few members of the community.
It is a free initiative in an open ecosystem, @devfund kinda like Steem's Mother Earth.

Honestly for the coding work required $800 is a bit undervalued. They’ve done some awesome work and imo it’s a good initiative. Everyone wants a slightly different so the more we have out there the better!

I agree. That's why I believe in showing to non technical people the real process, all the failing, all that have to be fixed how should be fixed. I did it once with a friend of mine and he told me "I didn't imagine all you have to do to create a program" and it was a really simple project.

We are talking about 663 sbd and 170 sp, the actual value of the post is closer to 2700 euros.

And I think it's good to have stuff like devfund to actually kickstart projects like this one.

Oh, that’s probably still a bit low for the dev work required but it’s definitely fair pay.

Does viper allow us to earn lbry credits aswell, is that integrated?because it would beneficial to link any dtube videos up to lbry as a secondary source of crypto, also have you considered doing a Snapchat style picture with filter app, open source filters that can be upvoted. I hate the fact that my favorite snap filters end up disappearing for cutesy ones. :/

and each one is a fishing net out in the giant ocean of capital.

this is a very good thing.

And 25% fee and weird key storage in a dB?

Wherever you are logged in, the website store your private's keys somewhere in a DB. Viper is one on the only app to implement post-quantum encryption algorithms to really secure your account.

I read the white paper; I publish in computer science, which method are your referring to, more specifically?

I also see the team read Stafford Beer's viable systems stuff; very good!

I like the interface; will there be support for typesetting mathematics? MathJax like Wordpress and MathOverflow, or something like Overleaf?

Privates keys are encrypted using Triplesec a triple-paranoid, symmetric encryption library.

Mathematics typesetting will be integrated in the editor for online courses using something like KaTex.

Who guarantees the security of private keys when stored off the Steem blockchain? That's likes saying, trust me with the keys to your bitcoin wallet.

Centralised storage is asking for trust in these services that they will not be abused. This cannot be guaranteed, by the service provider. It also makes it a target for hacking.

No, your keys are stored on your computer just like Steemit, we never touch your keys once, but most importantly you don't have to put your password again and again, since the encryption algorithm enable you to just put a PIN code with an even better security as comparing to Steemit.

It does not offer better security than Steemit, because the app still has to login in through Steemit security. You've only added an extra step.

Yes it does, your private does not pass to steem nor steemit nor any other platforms. it stays on viper which stay on your computer. When you post something, your private keys also does not leave viper, they are just used to sign that it comes from your account. Check out Steem for more information.

I agree with @isnochys. 25% retention of post payouts to use this Steem interface, what??? I don't think so! Some one is looking for a very sizeable profit.

There is no need to store our private keys in your DB, that defeats the concept of decentralisation and security.

With the recent abuses of permissions assigned to platforms such as DMania and the like, these two points are are massive red flags.

Its a pity, because the interface at first glance does look like an improvement upon Steemit.com.

Maybe enough just provide posting key? @vortex.chat we need a clarification here.
And I agree. 25% is ridiculous. You should at least make it limited by time, or I won't even consider going to your network. Like, it's already not easy to grow your account from scratch.

I was just going to ask the same thing. While the offline-mode and key storage might be nice, I don't see any real reason to switch away from using Steemit and Busy in favor of this. But then again, I love having options, and it is great to see more alternatives. If everyone just keeps using Steemit, the blockchain will likely grow at a much slower pace, and we all lose on it.

Compare, try it out, choose what you want ;)
Competition is very healthy.

Yeah, I agree :) I might try it, but to be honest, a 25 % beneficiary is preventing me from giving it a real consideration. This is actually a lot of money, so I would not really be willing to give that away just for a very nifty features.

they might get a hefty delegation which will add extra value to post there...we'll see!: )

Probably some kind of minnow-booster as a diversity and pertinence booster system ;)

That's a good point. It will definitely increase the appeal if they get it.

Competition is healthy for sure, but with that 25% though.. Personally will play around with it to see if it's for me.

sorry i am new here what is whitepaper?

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