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RE: HolySmoke! .. Steemit is about CREATING !!! siting the source is NOT enough if you didn't CREATE SOMETHING!!!

in #steem-help8 years ago

I approach copying & pasting without a source from the angle of plagiarism not "fair use" or copyright. 99.9% of the time those copy & pasting full text aren't using sources that are public domain so it isn't an issue. Those that do post public domain usually do it in such a way that lets the reader know it isn't their work and/or they aren't spamming for upvotes or money.

The problem with those that are curating portions of articles and not adding any commentary is that it become prolific when one of them gets a nice payout. Everyone wants to jump on the $100 money train and some users start cranking out 20 to 30 copy/paste articles a day that only have a picture, a paragraph, and a link all copied and pasted. It becomes a spam issue. They even start copying each other and you see the same posts plus or minus formatting. They make finding unique and relevant content impossible.

Before phone verification it was pretty easy for users to get multiple accounts to do this. They can still buy accounts if they find it profitable. And it is. They are using @randowhale, @esteem, and other initiatives here to get up-votes.

There are a lot of days I would like to throw in the towel when in just a few hours I find 10 or more accounts that are less than a day old just copying and pasting anything they can find they think might get someone's attention and a vote. The more ambitious ones have added comment spamming trying to drive traffic to their posts. Luckily most haven't figured out how to game the system and give up after a couple of days.

When I first joined steemit there were a couple accounts that were so high in rep and sp that they could copy, paste, & up-vote themselves to turn a nice profit without ever actually interacting and being part of the community.

Sorry my comment turned into a mini rant...

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It's like i said .... Trash littering the road side just cluttering up the joint.... stinking up the place, and encouraging others to litter...

I agree,
all the generic spam comments and reposted links doesnt look too good when its supposed to be an original content platform!!

Holysmoke! ... They are just regurgitating other people's stuff .. Sorry my upvote didn't get you any cha-chang.. i have so little steem power that i can't even worry about conserving my votes... i just vote uP everything i like.... the way it SHOULD Be !!! i reckon ..

thanks for the help @primal-buddhist,
problem with cost of your vote is power needs to be 80% to pay proper

You have every right to be pissed at these spammers.. But just bring it to the attention of the right people... the guy who messed with you probably has several, even bigger accounts.. Let others handle it...

@patrice @primal-buddhist @bitcoinsig
i think accounts that copy and paste are a serious problem,

take this user for example @zeroshiki

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every post since he joined is copy and pasted links with no comments,
pulled over $800 in a month!

Each post adding no value and at the same time extracting value from the platform hence lowering overall value of steem.

at the same time he's built up significant rep and has recently launched a pump and dump scam

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@zeroshiki/how-we-ll-do-a-pump-of-1-million-people-biggest-pump-ever#@isacoin/re-cryptotraderx-re-zeroshiki-how-we-ll-do-a-pump-of-1-million-people-biggest-pump-ever-20170705t232214375z

how many accounts are doing this?

all lessening the value of the platform over time and the longer those accounts are left to grow to heights that are out of reach of most users to help and are a serious threat to anyone who flags

Yes, again my post was in regards to people who are posting news from RSS or youtube sites where a license to repost ensures that traffic and credit are attributed to the author. I would like to see a system like Reddit where duplicate links are discovered by the posting system so that there isn't more then one news article linked as you have suggested is a problem.

As far as payout, that is up to the freemarket to decide how much the curation of such news and youtube videos should be worth. They are worth something of value to the people who have upvoted obviously, since they are basically saying yes this should be on the network and viewed by many. Again as long as they have the rights/license to post said content I don't think it is worth enforcement. This is better left to people who are actively trying to claim or publish content that they don't have rights to.