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RE: On Failure and The Last Jedi

in #starwars7 years ago

I agree with some and I disagree with some of what you said. I agree that Kylo Ren is lying about Rey’s parents and that she was probably conceived by the force, much like Anakin. I disagree that she was tempted. I disagree that she was truly tempted by the dark side when Luke was training her either.

I really think that Rey is the one that will balance the force... within herself. And I think Kylo Ren had the potential, but Luke blew it because he couldn’t conceive of a Jedi holding on to the dark and not turning away from it. Snoke make have been trying to tempt Ben, but Luke was the one that turned him. I also think that Kylo views Rey’s refusal to rule with him as a betrayal that will further push him towards the dark side.

I do agree that they needed SOMETHING about Snoke to explain who he was. I think that would have turned a lot of people’s mind about the movie.

I do think a couple of the scenes were cringe-worthy and agree that they turned strong moments into cheesy comedy... like when Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder.

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Actually I didn't say for sure he was lying, just that he could be or it could be "true from a certain point of view". Even if what he said was true it may not completely capture the circumstances of Rey's birth and it's true meaning. When she's looking into the mirror and the two shadows give way to her own reflection I think the message is that she has no parents, figuratively speaking. There is only her and the force.

I actually didn't mind the lightsaber throw. I felt that did a good job of setting up just how much Luke had changed, and how resistant he'd be to any attempt to get him back into the fight. When he did that I knew Rey had her work cut out for her. I was thinking scenes like the rock that Rey cuts with the lightsaber landing on the caretaker's wagon or BB-8 shooting those casino tokens like a machine gun.

What if he wasn’t lying, he was just “seeing”’her own assumptions? Or what the force wanted him to see? Or what HE wanted to see because he wouldn’t be able to bear someone else being born from the force?

And it’s funny... neither of those parts bothered me. BB-8 shooting the tokens was reminiscent of R2D2. I do agree that the Finn and Rose chase scene dragged on... and the initial scene with Poe and General Hux was over the top and made Hux look stupid instead of severe. They could have kept Poe’s joking, maybe cut it a little without diminishing Hux’s character.

All possible.

See I didn't like how they gave R2D2 a whole bunch of more gadgets in the prequels.

I was ok with the Poe and Hux scene. I like when people make fascists look stupid.