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I hadn't noticed that. I thought at first you meant that Israeli paid trolls use these tactics, since they do quite obviously and I have seen them for years on FB and elsewhere. Are you saying that others use these tactics to attack Israel?

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Absolutely, I like to use the example of how Israel is described compared with a country that shares many of the same circumstances(Although the way the two countries reacted to their circumstances differs greatly) yet there are no UN Resolutions, no public outcry, not even public knowledge of the circumstances.

Have you heard of the Death Trains or the 3 million civilians killed in a period of nine months in 1971?

I'm still not exactly clear what you ware saying here - you are going to have to spell it out for me.. maybe the sun/drought here has killed off some brain cells in me ;)

which country are you talking about comparing israel to? you mean nazi germany?

Don't you find it strange that I can bring up 3 million dead in 1971 and you would have no idea what I'm talking about?

Pakistan

https://steemit.com/history/@openparadigm/a-comparison-of-the-crimes-of-two-countries-and-how-they-are-viewed-by-the-world-part-two

I see, ok - yes, I do not know much about Pakistan's story - my own personal reason is that I don't know much about the majority of the many of Earth's countries due to me prioritising learning how to solve problems over learning every last problem in detail. I appreciated reading of the history in your post.

I don't have a good answer as to why Israel gets more attention than Pakistan, however, I do know that Israel doesn't really seem to be forced to actually change anything in response to UN decisions - so I'm not sure it makes much difference anyway.

The reason Israel gets more attention than Pakistan is the Marxist domination of the Intelligencia.

The Marxist opposition to Israel stems from...

  1. Despite strong Marxist influence during the early years of Israel's rebirth Israel never went Full Socialist, this was seen as an unforgivable betrayal especially by Jewish Marxists like Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein.

  2. The COMINTERN once again allied itself with National Socialists, this time with the National Socialist Pan-Arab Movement and just like the time the Soviet Union made a Non-aggression pact with the German National Socialists, American Communists abruptly changed their view of the Nazi's.

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly here. COMINTERN was dissolved 5 years before the state of Israel was founded.

I'm not sure exactly who you are referring to by 'the intelligencia' - but the most intelligent people I know of are neither Marxists, nor supporters of the oppression and genocide of people.

Different Name same international coordination, same coordinated smear campaign against the ideological impure.

The Research Institutes 100 and 205 worked for the International and later were moved to the International Department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, founded at roughly the same time that the Comintern was abolished in 1943, although its specific duties during the first several years of its existence are unknown.[46][47][48]

While the Communist parties of the world no longer had a formal international organization, they continued to maintain close relations with each other through a series of international forums. In the period directly after the Comintern's dissolution, periodical meetings of Communist parties were held in Moscow. Moreover, World Marxist Review, a joint periodical of the Communist parties, played an important role in coordinating the communist movement up to the break-up of the Socialist Bloc in 1989-1991.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_International

Sorry spelled it wrong, intelligentsia-intellectuals or highly educated people as a group, especially when regarded as possessing culture and political influence.
synonyms: intellectuals, intelligent people, academics, scholars.

but the most intelligent people I know of are neither Marxists, nor supporters of the oppression and genocide of people.

And yet so many intelligent people support the Arabs in their campaign of genocide and oppression against the Jews and completely ignore the ethnic cleansing of every Arab country of Jews.

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Then when the Jews of the Middle East are all chased into one tiny country they then label Israel an oppressor.
Maybe you are implying that Israel is involved in genocide? If you are then I would have you compare that map with the the growing population of the Arabs in Israel.

I'm writing an article about Israel and the Arabs and would be happy if you would critique it when I post

Communist International
The Communist International (Comintern), known also as the Third International (1919–1943), was an international communist organization that advocated world communism. The Comintern resolved at its Second Congress to "struggle by all available means, including armed force, for the overthrow of the international bourgeoisie and the creation of an international Soviet republic as a transition stage to the complete abolition of the state". The Comintern was founded after the 1915 Zimmerwald Conference in which Vladimir Lenin had organized the "Zimmerwald Left" against those who refused to approve any statement explicitly endorsing socialist revolutionary action, and after the 1916 dissolution of the Second International.
The Comintern held seven World Congresses in Moscow between 1919 and 1935.

And yet so many intelligent people support the Arabs in their campaign of genocide and oppression against the Jews and completely ignore the ethnic cleansing of every Arab country of Jews.

This is not something I have literally ever heard a single person mention - including all of the jews that I have known personally. What evidence is there for this genocide? Without seeing any evidence for this the obvious explanation for the figures shown on the map would be that the jews relocated to israel or elsewhere following increased hostility towards them due to the formation of Israel and the resulting conflict with Palestinians.

Sure, I'll check out your post if you remind me - I am very busy so will probably not see it without the prompt.

To your second statement I wouldn't call the Oslo process nothing, installing Islamic Supremacist terrorists into a government in an enclave in the middle of your country.

Just like they did in Yugoslavia, same Oslo process, the KLA like the PLO are guilty of subverted elections, torture, financially supporting terrorism and that's only after they were put in government.

I was referring more to recent years and maybe that ignoring of the UN has a lot to do with the Oslo accords, yes.

There is obviously some 'debate' as to who exactly 'owns' the land there. Did you know that before Israel was created there was lengthy discussion about where to locate it and numerous locations were considered, including Uganda - as I recall. It is clear to me that the needs and wishes of many who inhabited those lands were not considered and while it is true that groups there have acted in barbaric ways, I think the same can be said for both 'sides' in the conflict... it is just that to the rest of the world, just as when bush went after 'terrorists' while killing millions of innocents, the actions of Israel appear totally disproportionate and totally intended to achieve ulterior motives... Thus, they don't get 'good press'. I cannot speak much to the situation in Pakistan as it is not an area I know much about in detail. Part of the cause for the ignorance on this topic in 'the west' is the language barriers involved.

Yes I know about the plan for Uganda,

It is clear to me that the needs and wishes of many who inhabited those lands were not considered

Seventy-eight percent of British Mandate Palestine was given to the Arabs of Palestine how much more should they get?

the actions of Israel appear totally disproportionate and totally intended to achieve ulterior motives... ?

Of which actions do you speak?

The page on the foundation of Israel on Wikipedia quotes:

The Jewish state was to receive around 56% of the land area of Mandate Palestine, encompassing 82% of the Jewish population, though it would be separated from Jerusalem. The plan was accepted by most of the Jewish population, but rejected by much of the Arab populace.

Of which actions do you speak?

Dropping white phosphorous bombs on children?

Sniping children and bragging about it?

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The total barricading of Gaza - effectively starving millions to death?

Here is my article, the first video illustrates clearly Palestinian rejection of reasonable peace offers.

https://steemit.com/palestine/@openparadigm/debunking-the-palestine-lie