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RE: An interesting collection of coincidences involving Daniel Larimer

in #philosophy8 years ago

Most of us don't choose our names, but some believe in nominative determinism.

My name implies a crown-wearing office worker. Hmm, could be some truth in that.

I guess your chosen name implies you like to cause mischief :)

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My birth name is David Nicholas Vennik. The Beloved of the Jews, Victory of the People, and, I believe, from the russian, involving a covered up but controversial marriage between a member of my several generations back aristocratic east dutch/west german (Westphalia) family line, presumably a woman, and a poor russian immigrant - the noun Vennik, spelled precisely as such.

Here is the translation from russian into english (and I still don't know why my windows installation of chrome uses bulgarian for google sites, but it doesn't impede my use of them): (click to see it full size)

Yes, a broom, as in the thing you sweep the dust off a floor, or pavement. Specifically most often used to refer to the bundle of sticks used in most of europe by street cleaners. I used to get called 'faggot' when I was in school, by bullies, and they loved to mispronounce this last name. A faggot is a bundle of sticks. A Vennik is a bundle of thin twigs that has utility as a cleaning tool.

Speaking of bundles of sticks, NATO calls the russian MIG 15 'faggot' http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread169147/pg1

When I was in junior highschool, one of my best friends was a buff of militaria, and that's where I learned that. How ironic is it that it turned out later he was gay. He never made a hit on me, ever, not once, but he was well known throughout the school for having erections at very unfortunate times.

Yes, Loki is the trickster. The cognate in american indian folklore is Coyote. The books where Loki was described, the Eddas, in my opinion are fables of a long previous time when a commoner sauntered into the king's courtroom (King being Odin, and Valhalla being the court), tricked everyone into all kinds of self-incriminating statements and acts of further incrimination.

The guy was so slippery, that eventually the king himself, being of course a very accomplished fighter and hunter, tried to catch Loki, but Loki evaded every effort that was made. Note also, that Odin, the king in my hypothetical interpretation, achieved his status of God-King by hanging on a special tree, called Yggdrasil, the tree of the universe (or life, perhaps). Upside down, if I remember correctly. After 3 days, he became enlightened, and then became the Lord of the Norse people.

Until Loki


Also, many associate Loki with Satan. Satan is nothing to do with Lucifer, however, the similarity of the sounds is quite striking. Satan means literally 'The Adversary' in hebrew, and Shaitan is the word in Arabic. The adversary is a legal term, usually applied to the prosecution, which also in many cases, is the representative of the People or as more common now, the simulation of the People called government. Likewise, Prosecutors are famous for their ability to construct questions and make statements that induce confessions from the defendant.

Lastly, Elfspice, my current nick, which was my nick up until I changed it after I got tired of people complaining about the auto-complete requiring 4 letters as there was another, more 'quiet and judicious, and highly respected member' so I switched to loki. This had 2 letters colliding with another user, so I switched to l0k1, and no more problems with autocomplete. Elfspice was an early internet slang name for DMT, the drug Dimethyl Tryptamine, which I became obsessed with after reading Terence Mckenna after eating a lot of magic mushrooms.

Bullies will pick up on anything they can use against you. It can be tough for kids with certain names. I expect the author Neil Gaiman may have had some tough times as a kid.

I recently learned that the word fascism came from the Italian for a bundle of sticks (fasces](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces)).

Faggot can have another meaning in the UK. And 'pack of fags' may have a very different meaning according to where you live.

Words are fascinating

They are, and they often mean a lot more than you think. Even numbers, which are really also a type of word.

Fasces is more than just a bundle of sticks. The axe is also in the middle of the bundle, and it represents military authoritarian government.

In my opinion too much gets read into the meaning of numbers. The meaning is down to how people interpret them. And that changes over time. I remember when 'feeling gay' meant just being happy.

On a TV show they asked 'where is the fascist in the Oval Office?'. There's fasces over the doors, minus the axe.

You could be right in that point. It is a logical thing that when a woodsman goes out to chop a bunch of sticks, which can be of course including as much as 1-2" boughs, that bringing it back home, it would have to be tied up, to stick on the horse or to carry it. It would also make sense then, to bind the axe into it as well. Thus the meaning of a bundle of sticks over the door of the oval office is doubly suspect.

As for numbers, numbers have a meaning, which you can discover by reading about number theory and topology. Especially the most primitive numbers, the prime numbers. If you can consider each number a word, then the process of producing the non-prime numbers combines meanings same as stems, prefixes and suffixes do with words. Order of numbers in mathematical functions can be critical too, hence the grammar of order of precedence, which is a way to save drawing brackets around things to show the tree structure of the grammar.

The bundle of sticks symbolises strength through unity. It's an ancient idea and nicely depicted in a recent Planet of the Apes movie. How you interpret the image now is influenced by how it's been used.

At least mathematics is less ambiguous than words :) Wars have been fought over words.

The US Mercury Dime 1916-1945 obverse a fasces:


Deeper in the rabbit hole.

I knew about this one already. Also, what the fuck is up with the California flag. Communist much?

Star and russian bear? I wondered why they call it the left coast.

I dunno about the author but in the mid '80s we could get little packs of lollies called Fags - fashioned after cigarettes. By the late '80s they were sold as Fads. And then they weren't sold at all. Imagine how the usual suspects will shit when cannabis edibles hit in this Big Brother buttfuck of a country...

I used to have sweet 'cigarettes' when I was a kid. We could pretend to smoke them. How things change.

I remember those things. nasty starch and sugar things laced with nasty fake flavours. Like those horrible star shaped extruded things. I remember many times eating a bunch and then feeling really wrong.

How ironic, that they are probably more toxic than cigarettes. The toxicity of a high carb diot, at least to my body, is becoming clearer and clearer every day, and then, walking around the supermarket, jesus christ. Nearly no food items are not high carbohydrate. Even smoked salmon and pork has frickin sugar or starch in its preparation.