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RE: No man is an Island: The self-imposed limitations on Liberty

in #philosophy7 years ago

you do touch one one thing - that a lot of people that are anti establishment, libertarian, etc, only choose to be so because they know that it is a popular movement and they can get a platform, be heard, etc..

But onto the genuine cases of people that genuinely believe that stuff - I think it's a symptom of overreach by governments and laws. No doubt we need some level of governing for society as a whole to function, but for far too long, that governing has been inefficient, inaccurate, and quite often corrupt - politicians profiting at the cost of the people. When stuff like that happens, people tend to want to swing in the complete opposite direction - which is also not an answer.

We really just need incremental improvements - a culture of cleaning things up bit by bit - but the problem with that, is while you're cleaning up rot on one side of the tree,the other side of the tree is rotting away twice as fast...

I've been feeling for a while that Society will get worse before it gets better.. I think we're likely going to see a major international event very soon - probably a war - there's too many spotfires going on right now. Russia, North Korea, China, Iran, US, UK, Australia, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Qatar, Egypt, Israel, Palestine - all these countries have been involved in some level of conflict, or more than one conflict, within the past year or so.

World War 2 is almost like the event in which everything essentially got reset - most of our modern history is perceived to be things that happened since WW2.. Perhaps our next reset is just around the corner..

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Is it the government that is inherently corrupt or people within? Aren't they themselves largely products of our own societies. They were raised in our neighbourhoods, went to our schools etc. Does this mean that if we were in their positions, we would be corrupt too? This is the issue for those fighting against it as often when given the opportunity, they are no different.

World War 2 is almost like the event in which everything essentially got reset

Yeah, the patterns we choose tend to eat themselves and create large inequalities. Extremes will always lead to conflicts and when large enough, the system will reset to begin again. If only we learned a little more about building community rather than just the capital technology to sell.

It's a bit of both. There's enough corruption within society to harbour corruption at the top, and those that aren't corrupt are apathetic to it all and feel helpless, or are too busy trying to get by in their own life

I sometimes wonder if the economy is engineered in such a way that we all have just enough to survive, but not too much so that we don't have to be preoccupied with our day to day situations to work towards making everything work out, because if enough of us aren't preoccupied, you might get more that find the time for activism..

here is one of them that looks at it a bit.

https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@tarazkp/always-enough-never-enough

I sometimes wonder if the economy is engineered in such a way that we all have just enough to survive, but not too much so that we don't have to be preoccupied with our day to day situations to work towards making everything work out, because if enough of us aren't preoccupied, you might get more that find the time for activism..

I think this is close to truth. This is the debt cycle. I have written something about this a long time ago, I will see if I can find it.