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RE: Time to call a duck, a duck.

in #palnet6 years ago

I know nothing about this guy, but any violence is bad. I hear about the term 'antifa', but who do they really represent? It seems there are always thugs around who use politics, sport or whatever as an excuse to beat people up. They may not actually care about the cause. They should be disowned by anyone they claim to represent. Of course you have a president who encourages attacks on the media, so some blame lies there. Shameful to see him joking about this with Putin when journalists in Russia are being murdered.

I've been considering a post on the 'fake news' theme, but I am no expert on that. What I do know is that suppression and discrediting of the media are the techniques of dictators. Journalists all over the world are imprisoned, beaten up or worse for trying to report on what goes on. I may not like what Breitbart stand for, but attacking their people is just wrong. I hope those responsible are brought to justice. Fight them with words, not fists.

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It seems there are always thugs around who use politics, sport or whatever as an excuse to beat people up.

Typical liberal jargon trying to pacify a violent thug group as mere troublemakers looking for a reason to cause trouble. Fact is though that troublemakers don't don in a specific dress style by the hundreds, sound para-militarized by shouting out fall back commands during protest, sending out tweets that say they realized some may not be able to engage but to show up to support the cause (meaning if you can physical fight then fight), pre-planning to add quick dry cement to milkshakes to throw at people are all signs of a domestic terrorist group out to terrorize people over differing view. Watch some of of the video clips from this past protest and in it you will see there are no other people in the crowds involved in the scuffles, violence hiding their identities and that's because they went there to hold a rally in support of each other to express themselves in a peaceful manner, there was no reason to hide who they were as they weren't coming to be engaged in fighting.

It's easy to want to lay blame on a US president who mocks the press. There's a huge difference between mocking the press over inaccurate, slanderous, bias interpretations of stories and actually jailing, beating, and killing reporters. Maybe before you lay the blame at the presidents feet why don't we look at the number of Hollywood liberals over the years who have assaulted the press, you may want to start with Alex Baldwin as he is famous for it.

I do not excuse anyone for committing violence. No jargon required. Call me any names you want ;)

I think you will find plenty of evidence of fascist groups attacking people, so it goes both ways and should not be considered acceptable by anyone.

Who was the president who said he admires someone who can bodyslam a journalist and gets his crowds riled up against any (non-Fox) journalists at his rallies. It's easy to find some 'liberal' (by whatever definition) celebrities who get into fights, but I can empathise a bit when the press hounds you all the time. Nobody is perfect and they should be punished for it. The most powerful man on earth needs to pick his words very carefully as others may act on them.

I consider Trump a bully who gets others to do his dirty work and who cosies up to other bullies. The most dangerous bully is one with the nuclear button. Just my opinion.

I don't consider calling someone a liberal name calling, if you are a Antifa member I can see getting upset being called a terrorist.

It's easy to find some 'liberal' (by whatever definition) celebrities who get into fights, but I can empathise a bit when the press hounds you all the time.

That's exactly what happened with that reporter, Rep Gianforte got tired of being hounded, he offered the reporter two viable options to his question but not now and the reporter push on. I don't think he should have won the election the next day, violence isn't the answer to anything and it shouldn't be rewarded, especially among well known individuals, if they can't stand the heat they shouldn't jump in the frying pan. I don't agree with Trump making such a statement, being such a news buff and blogger you'd thought I had seen that before now. I think a lot of what he says or has said in the past was to gain media attention and focus, it's hard to get out front being the mouse in the room. Other times I think he just loves trolling the press, which is a more sensible way to send them into a frenzy. I actually enjoy a president who lies right back at those who've sold us out and lied to our faces for decades, they, in my opinion, have just made society a more dangerous place for everyone as people scramble to survive after losing good paying jobs and benefits not to mention those who were already struggling on low wage jobs prior to millions of others losing theirs, desperate people do desperate things.

Trump has not been soft on Russia, Iran or N Korea, if it was left up to the regular status quo the world would always be a more dangerous place, I whole heartedly agree that an open dialogue is the better route to go then to war where thousands of people who don't agree with their government anyway will be the causalities, slowing those aggression's are better than fostering them.

I'm not a part of any group, but I have supported some peaceful protests. Is Antifa an organisation? I don't know anyone involved with it.

The media is not one thing and you have to decide who you trust. There are those who control a lot of it who have their own agendas, as do the politicians. Adding more lies to the mix does not help, but it may be part of a strategy to cause more confusion. It looks to me as if Trump just makes shit up and then his people have to justify it, but maybe he is playing '3d chess'. He seems to care more about his ego than anything else. It's bizarre, but his Twitter feed will keep psychologists busy for decades.

UK politics is fucked up too :(