Since you decided to downvote so many of my comments, I thought I'll upvote them cause haven't really self-voted many posts lately. I'm also going to resteem this post so others can see what the fuck you're spewing in here.
While I am in support of your project, this post is extemely cringy with its unfounded accusations towards one of the biggest projects working to support the whole steem userbase.
Just accept that the time of profitable bid bots is over, and start a power down. That will give you >100 liquid steem a week, which you can use for your donations.
@acidyo, @pharesim
All in all, it was not really fair to take action with full hardness without any previous warning.
It was for a good charity and was even well documented with their remittances to the shelters.
Also, the votes bought were not so high that it would have justified such a strong action. I also think that a conversation in advance could have solved a lot of things. There are a lot of abusers out there that need much more attention.
Btw. I also don't understand why they are deleting all content. People might have noticed the animals also afterwards they left.
I do not see any purpose for others in these "buy votes".
Why should I pay an upvote to @nosdos for 20 STEEM at a bid bot if I could actually pay the 20 STEEM for @nosdos?
Do not be angry with me, but this fight does not have to be.
GERMAN:
Ich sehe in diesen "Stimmen kaufen" für Andere überhaupt keinen Sinn.
Warum soll ich bei einem Bid-Bot, für 20 STEEM einen Upvote an @nosdos zahlen, wenn ich eigentlich die 20 STEEM doch gleich an @nosdos bezahlen könnte?
Sei mir nicht böse, aber dieser Streit muss nicht sein.
Of course, it wasn't the right path they were going down.
Look at my reputation and see how long I've been with STEEM.
I quickly realized that buying voices is not good for STEEM and the community.
Just because others do it doesn't mean I have the right to do it.
The reward pool is not meant for buying votes.
GERMAN
Natürlich war es nicht der richtige Weg, welchen sie gegangen waren.
Schau Dir meine Reputation an und schau wie lange ich schon bei STEEM bin.
Ich habe schnell erkannt, dass Stimmen kaufen nicht gut für STEEM und die Gemeinschaft ist.
Nur weil es die Anderen machen, heißt es nicht, dass ich das Recht habe es auch zu machen.
Der Belohnung Pool ist nicht für den Kauf von Stimmen gedacht.
I just wanted to notice that you're showing old images :) The screenshot from discord is outdated by something like 2 weeks now. @ocdb does not take any payments or bids as far as I know.
As for the screenshot with me - @ocdb and other (bidbot)killer whales started to downvote paid votes from @tipU few days ago, as well as probably any voting service. Chill.
Alas, Steemit itself is not a charity. It can do great works through the power of community but using bidbots to buy cheap Steem to then sell in aid of your charity is both unsustainable and unacceptable as part of #newsteem where you are undermining other content creators earnings.
Hi, it was me who casted the downvote to your post, don't slander acidyo if you don't know who did what.
Buying votes is buying votes, no matter what the purpose of the rewards is for.
Oh and by the way, I don't recall anyone calling it a scam, just a general comment at charities on steem (which 99% of them have proven to be that, scams), but nobody called it directly to your project, at least not from acidyo or me which opinions represent the project.
Steem is not your milking cow that you can use to finance your projects (at least not via the reward pool). It doesn't matter how good your project is, buying votes is buying votes.
What has this to do with double standards? Tipu is a tool to support people, used by guys like @balte and not an abused upvotebot like buildawhale etc.
Just read the name TIPU it's not an upvote bot, but a tool/bot you can use to support authors if your own upvote isn't that high. What has balte to do with it? Well he uses the bot/tool pretty often to support other people by giving them 2$ upvotes (or so) and through him I "discovered" this bot.
You came here telling me what Steem is not there for while acting even more the way you claim to be wrong for whatever reason.
How? Did I use upvote bots on one of my last posts?
Tipu maybe was used as an upvote bot by some people but the intention was never to be an upvote bot in the means of booster, upmewhale etc. I didn't even talk about the changes that happened recently.
Our account was downvoted for receiving exactly the upvotes you are talking about.
There's a big difference between buying yourself big upvotes and supporting other people with small upvotes.
Hey I'm Acid, I like cryptocurrencies especially altcoins, I think blockchain tech will revolutionize everything. My hobbies are gaming, posting/curating on Steem, investing and abusing dogs.
Unfortunately Steemit is in worse shape right now than before HF21, there are a lot of less quality posts so the great curation rewards are made off of voting for shit posts, bid bots are alive and well, as I said before just look at what @freedom makes every day from his delegations to them, so all this high fives and back pattings are just people knowing its crap but still trying to kid themselves. In the mean time more and more people who are decent writers are leaving.
And how many can you do this with? Not many in a day, there just isn't quality content, of course you can follow the denial path and say everything is rosy, this won't change reality.
Now which is the case, are quality content creators leaving in drovers because of EIP or is it the case that there aren't many to begin with? It can't be both. I'm doing my best to find, upvote and resteem quality posts as anyone reading my profile can attest to. You, on the other hand promised to get back to me and point out good content to me when I asked you to do so a few weeks ago. You still haven't done so.
Could it be there isn't much good content? A lot of the better authors have left, mainly because they are making a lot less, could it be because of circle jerking? If you can't find good content, what makes you think I can? The same content is out there, most of it stinks, the only content getting any votes is the newsteem, downvotes are great type of content. And that isn't good content.
I haven't complained about a lack of good content. In fact, I have observed many great content creators see a tenfold increase in their rewards. For example, @boddhisattva has started to get rewards worth several dollars or sometimes even more than $10 in rewards for his photography posts. To my joy, the rewards of @digitalis have jumped from tens of cents to dollars, often at or close to $10. Both are pretty good photographers, @digitalis in particular, whose insect macros should've been rewarded at a much higher level than they were prior to #newsteem. Then there's the illustrious @paulmp, a very skillful professional landscape photographer who used to make a couple of dollars per post before HF21 and who now regularly makes double digit bucks. His most highly rewarded post made something like $60. At last, PoB is working!
I don't believe you, at least not without any kind of proof, that there has been an exodus of quality content creators post HF21 and because of HF21. What I've seen is many shitposters who have stopped posting altogether because their pending rewards got rightfully downvoted to oblivion.
Well you can of course believe what you will, but I think you just have to look a little beyond your group and you will see things are quite different from what you think they are. I hope you are right and I am wrong, something tells me this is not so though.
No one ever stumbles across a Steem article with a google search. Why? Because no one reads anything at Steem. The votes are coming from the list view or the article is clicked, scrolled down to voting and then the back button is hit. Biggest achievement is someone flying over the text and giving a useless comment in hope to get a small upvote. Any talking about "quality posts" is just dreaming.
The 7 days monetization limit guarantees no one will ever read it again afterwards.
Man the only authors who are getting any votes are the same group, over and over and with quite low quality content, I have had weeks of not seeing a post I would consider of great quality so obviously the quality writers are either gone or aren't posting. Just look at what is on trending.
Since you decided to downvote so many of my comments, I thought I'll upvote them cause haven't really self-voted many posts lately. I'm also going to resteem this post so others can see what the fuck you're spewing in here.
slick move
looks like he still mad xD
Understanding things seems difficult to do.
While I am in support of your project, this post is extemely cringy with its unfounded accusations towards one of the biggest projects working to support the whole steem userbase.
Just accept that the time of profitable bid bots is over, and start a power down. That will give you >100 liquid steem a week, which you can use for your donations.
He can decide to flag your post, just like you can decide to buy upvotes.
Including original comment for transparency
[ ] you understand what decentralization means
Who would've seen it coming that he would edit out all his comments. xD
@acidyo, @pharesim
All in all, it was not really fair to take action with full hardness without any previous warning.
It was for a good charity and was even well documented with their remittances to the shelters.
Also, the votes bought were not so high that it would have justified such a strong action. I also think that a conversation in advance could have solved a lot of things.
There are a lot of abusers out there that need much more attention.
Btw. I also don't understand why they are deleting all content. People might have noticed the animals also afterwards they left.
Dude, he got a 1% downvote.
Hmm... OK. Thought it was way more.
I do not see any purpose for others in these "buy votes".
Why should I pay an upvote to @nosdos for 20 STEEM at a bid bot if I could actually pay the 20 STEEM for @nosdos?
Do not be angry with me, but this fight does not have to be.
GERMAN:
Ich sehe in diesen "Stimmen kaufen" für Andere überhaupt keinen Sinn.
Warum soll ich bei einem Bid-Bot, für 20 STEEM einen Upvote an @nosdos zahlen, wenn ich eigentlich die 20 STEEM doch gleich an @nosdos bezahlen könnte?
Sei mir nicht böse, aber dieser Streit muss nicht sein.
You are wrong. There are plenty of us that have earned our reputation by posting content that the community curated and we don’t use bid bots.
Of course, it wasn't the right path they were going down.
Look at my reputation and see how long I've been with STEEM.
I quickly realized that buying voices is not good for STEEM and the community.
Just because others do it doesn't mean I have the right to do it.
The reward pool is not meant for buying votes.
GERMAN
Natürlich war es nicht der richtige Weg, welchen sie gegangen waren.
Schau Dir meine Reputation an und schau wie lange ich schon bei STEEM bin.
Ich habe schnell erkannt, dass Stimmen kaufen nicht gut für STEEM und die Gemeinschaft ist.
Nur weil es die Anderen machen, heißt es nicht, dass ich das Recht habe es auch zu machen.
Der Belohnung Pool ist nicht für den Kauf von Stimmen gedacht.
I just wanted to notice that you're showing old images :) The screenshot from discord is outdated by something like 2 weeks now. @ocdb does not take any payments or bids as far as I know.
As for the screenshot with me - @ocdb and other (bidbot)killer whales started to downvote paid votes from @tipU few days ago, as well as probably any voting service. Chill.
Alas, Steemit itself is not a charity. It can do great works through the power of community but using bidbots to buy cheap Steem to then sell in aid of your charity is both unsustainable and unacceptable as part of #newsteem where you are undermining other content creators earnings.
Hi, it was me who casted the downvote to your post, don't slander acidyo if you don't know who did what.
Buying votes is buying votes, no matter what the purpose of the rewards is for.
Oh and by the way, I don't recall anyone calling it a scam, just a general comment at charities on steem (which 99% of them have proven to be that, scams), but nobody called it directly to your project, at least not from acidyo or me which opinions represent the project.
If you have to buy votes, the community doesn't support you.
Work harder at building an audience, eh?
Yes, that is the problem.
Steem is not your milking cow that you can use to finance your projects (at least not via the reward pool). It doesn't matter how good your project is, buying votes is buying votes.
What has this to do with double standards? Tipu is a tool to support people, used by guys like @balte and not an abused upvotebot like buildawhale etc.
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Just read the name TIPU it's not an upvote bot, but a tool/bot you can use to support authors if your own upvote isn't that high. What has balte to do with it? Well he uses the bot/tool pretty often to support other people by giving them 2$ upvotes (or so) and through him I "discovered" this bot.
How? Did I use upvote bots on one of my last posts?
Tipu maybe was used as an upvote bot by some people but the intention was never to be an upvote bot in the means of booster, upmewhale etc. I didn't even talk about the changes that happened recently.
There's a big difference between buying yourself big upvotes and supporting other people with small upvotes.
Continue your charity through curation or donations, not vote-buying profitable votes from bid bots, or you know, don't.
guess you can add dog abuser to your list :)
Hey I'm Acid, I like cryptocurrencies especially altcoins, I think blockchain tech will revolutionize everything. My hobbies are gaming, posting/curating on Steem, investing and abusing dogs.
lol
lmao
Unfortunately Steemit is in worse shape right now than before HF21, there are a lot of less quality posts so the great curation rewards are made off of voting for shit posts, bid bots are alive and well, as I said before just look at what @freedom makes every day from his delegations to them, so all this high fives and back pattings are just people knowing its crap but still trying to kid themselves. In the mean time more and more people who are decent writers are leaving.
Absolutely not true... I for one hunt down the good stuff, resteem it and then it gets seen. I can show you many examples of this.
And how many can you do this with? Not many in a day, there just isn't quality content, of course you can follow the denial path and say everything is rosy, this won't change reality.
I do struggle to find it, that is true. What I find puzzling is that just isn't that hard to do it.
I find that puzzling, you struggle to find it yet it isn't that hard?
Now which is the case, are quality content creators leaving in drovers because of EIP or is it the case that there aren't many to begin with? It can't be both. I'm doing my best to find, upvote and resteem quality posts as anyone reading my profile can attest to. You, on the other hand promised to get back to me and point out good content to me when I asked you to do so a few weeks ago. You still haven't done so.
Could it be there isn't much good content? A lot of the better authors have left, mainly because they are making a lot less, could it be because of circle jerking? If you can't find good content, what makes you think I can? The same content is out there, most of it stinks, the only content getting any votes is the newsteem, downvotes are great type of content. And that isn't good content.
I haven't complained about a lack of good content. In fact, I have observed many great content creators see a tenfold increase in their rewards. For example, @boddhisattva has started to get rewards worth several dollars or sometimes even more than $10 in rewards for his photography posts. To my joy, the rewards of @digitalis have jumped from tens of cents to dollars, often at or close to $10. Both are pretty good photographers, @digitalis in particular, whose insect macros should've been rewarded at a much higher level than they were prior to #newsteem. Then there's the illustrious @paulmp, a very skillful professional landscape photographer who used to make a couple of dollars per post before HF21 and who now regularly makes double digit bucks. His most highly rewarded post made something like $60. At last, PoB is working!
I don't believe you, at least not without any kind of proof, that there has been an exodus of quality content creators post HF21 and because of HF21. What I've seen is many shitposters who have stopped posting altogether because their pending rewards got rightfully downvoted to oblivion.
Well you can of course believe what you will, but I think you just have to look a little beyond your group and you will see things are quite different from what you think they are. I hope you are right and I am wrong, something tells me this is not so though.
Please mention one good author who has seen their rewards go down after HF21 and ¨who has left the platform since.
No one ever stumbles across a Steem article with a google search. Why? Because no one reads anything at Steem. The votes are coming from the list view or the article is clicked, scrolled down to voting and then the back button is hit. Biggest achievement is someone flying over the text and giving a useless comment in hope to get a small upvote. Any talking about "quality posts" is just dreaming.
The 7 days monetization limit guarantees no one will ever read it again afterwards.
We are looking to support good authors, care to share with us who are these decent writers who are leaving?
Att anomadsoul
Man the only authors who are getting any votes are the same group, over and over and with quite low quality content, I have had weeks of not seeing a post I would consider of great quality so obviously the quality writers are either gone or aren't posting. Just look at what is on trending.
http://steemreports.com/outgoing-votes-info/?account=ocdb&days=30
we're a pretty big group then I guess
No more than 200.
Is that what it said?
No, that is about what I count, it's not difficult you just look at who votes who they vote for and it comes out to even less than that.
Have you checked out the steemleo.com trending page?
https://www.steemleo.com/trending/