NO Questions
It’s now been over three years since I’ve been part of a curator team again. With Team Europe, we had/have big plans. Not to turn everything upside down, but to possibly offer some different approaches. A week of truly hard work is almost behind us, and the disappointment runs deep.
This isn’t meant to be a complaint post - it won’t change anything anyway, though it might help to let some of the built-up sadness out. Besides, the-gorilla already said so much concerning "What happened Steemit?" in a very personal post - things that speak directly to what I feel. And the recent post by denmarkguy also expresses exactly what’s on the minds of our team members.
Still, I feel the urge to share a few of my own thoughts with the world. Fairly neutrally - I simply want to ask you a few questions. A bit all over the place, but here goes:
- Have you ever spent more than half an hour writing a post?
- Do you look after your post once it’s published (or are you already rushing to the next one)?
- Would you want to read your own post?
- Would you pay for it?
- Would you pay as much as bigger stakeholders potentially could—yet you clearly expect them to?
- Are you aware that violating copyright (e.g., through plagiarism) is considered a serious offense in most countries around the world?
- Do you actually read the posts you vote for?
- Do you engage with them?
- Do you write comments that show the author you really engaged with their post?
- Do you spend more than 3 minutes (if at all) on a comment?
- Do you expect comments on your own posts?
- Do you respond to those who took the time to write something for you?
- Do you at least acknowledge their comment with a vote?
- Have you built a network?
- Do you enjoy interacting with it?
- Is your network (made up of real people!) able to vote your posts past the payout threshold?
- Would you still be here if the Steemit team and all its curation teams suddenly stopped voting tomorrow?
- Is it an issue that major stakeholders might rather focus solely on themselves and delegate their SP elsewhere?
- Are you embarrassed that, due to you delegated a large part/ all of your SP, you can no longer support the community the way you expect it to support you?
- Do you keep track of what your vote trail is voting for on your behalf?
- Are you embarrassed by the kind of crap your SP ends up “supporting”?
- Do you sometimes feel ashamed to be an active Steemian - a part of this “community”?
- Is the word “greed” a negative term for you?
- Do you think the Steemit team sometimes feels sick when they see what their SP has been used for?
And on and on... So to wrap it up, three final questions:
- Do you expect more from Steem than just “a quick coin”?
- Do you see a future for Steem?
- Do you believe that you, as an individual, can help keep interest in this platform alive?
Okay. Writing these questions down, as random as they are, actually felt quite good.
If you answered even one of these questions with NO, please take a minute for some honest self-reflection.
If you answered several with NO, then please find yourself another hobby - before you ruin the hobby of the few human users who are still here and still care.
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You have given everyone something to reflect on but sadly users who need this the most won't even read it and are busy in their game of greed.
Half hour for a post? Sometimes my comments take longer than that.
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I’ve never been able to write a post in such a short time — and honestly, I don’t think I ever will. Even though I can think fast and note things down quickly, putting together a post always takes more time, more thought, and a little piece of heart!
Sometimes it takes days though I have the same abilities you have.
I wonder how all those who don't even understand the language that they use for posting manage 1-3 posts a day. Argh... NO, I don't... 😉
They won't... But it was good to just write these questions down (burnt up some of my afternoon...). And all those who read it have once again been brought up to date with my current (never really changed much...) attitude.
Here's my ‘sorry’ to everyone who read this low-quality post just because I'm Chriddi.
I don't even need less than an hour for the shallowest content... 😔
But not everyone has to shout NO! already at the very first question... 😂
It felt good reading these questions — kind of a silent self-validation.
It was hard to skip. 😅
... und um zu demonstrieren, wie recht du hast, erscheint als erstes auch gleich unser zu nichts zu gebrauchender AI Top Kommentator punicwax!
Jepp! Gorilla hat ihn gemutet, von mir hat er zu 100% eins auf die Nase gekriegt... 😁
It looks like something went wrong with his label. Odd. I'll correct it now.
Ouch, NO censoring?! 🤭
Mich begleitet Steemit seit 2016. Ich habe hier viele Freunde gefunden und einige auch persönlich kennengelernt. Zu begin war Steemit für mich eine (von mehreren) Möglichkeiten, ein paar digitale Münzen zu verdienen und damit tiefer in die Krypto Welt einzutauchen. Mittlerweile sehe ich die Community hier als Quelle der Inspiration und des Austausches.
Brauche ich mehr als 30 min für einen Post? Ja, unbedingt. Ich bin nicht besonders schnell im schreiben, mache viele Tippfehler, die dann gefunden und korrigiert werden müssen. Ich lese nicht alle Post die ich vote. Manche überfliege ich nur.
Geld verdienen mit Steemit? Wohl kaum. Statt dessen zahle jeden Monat eine kleine Menge ein, freue mich wie meine SP langsam wächst. Das könnte schneller gehen, wenn ich mehr schreiben würde. Und da kommen wir wieder zur Zeitfrage.
So, für morgen hab ich mir vorgenommen, vom Stand meiner Gallenstein-Behandlung zu berichten. Jetzt ist der Akku leer. Im Laptop und bei mir 😉
Greetings, friend @germansailor
I liked your comment; it seems sincere and real. We all come here with the intention of making money; however, the daily routine becomes a habit, and the need to stay constantly active arises. Financially, anyone who has invested in Steem has little chance of losing, and Steem has many benefits for generating dividends.
Long live you.
Many Thanks!
Danke für deinen ausführlichen Kommentar - wobei du ganz bestimmt nicht zu den Leuten gehörst, die diesen Post überhaupt hätten lesen müssten. Naja, egal. Die, die es müssten, tun's ja sowieso nicht. War nur zum befreien der Lasten auf der Leber, die einfach in den wenigen Tagen sc03-Bedienung unerträglich groß geworden ist... 🤦♀️
Gehört leider nur noch für (sehr wenige) Individuen zum Standard, zur Selbstverständlichkeit bevor man sich die Blöße gibt, seine Fähigkeiten zu VerÖFFENTLICHen. Und dafür wollen "sie" dann sogar noch Geld haben... Das ist einfach nur respektlos jedem ansatzweise interessierten Leser gegenüber.
Mache ich auch. Aber immerhin öffne ich sie und überfliege, ob ich später nochmal genauer lesen möchte.
Bin gespannt auf eine positive Gallensteinbilanz... 😉
Hier bin ich wohl nicht auf dem aktuellen Stand. "sc03-Bedienung" ist für mich ein Fremdwort.
Zur Gallenblase. Das ist wohl krasser als gedacht. Viele Untersuchungen und Gespräche heute. Bin noch nicht zum schreiben gekommen.
Naja, du kennst das "Steemit Team" mit ATsteemcurator01 und ATsteemcurator02 aka sc01 und sc02. Moecki, Gorilla und ich haben in diesem Monat die Schlüssel für sc03, kuratieren (bedienen) zusätzlich, freiwillig, zeit- und lustfressend diesen Account.
Sooooowas von nebensächlich!
Alles Gute! 😘
Besten Dank!
Kann ich mir lebhaft vorstellen, das so ein Amt Arbeit macht und auch frustrierend sein kann.
Mein heutiger Tag war voll. Konnte den Post dennoch in Etappen schreiben. Und eben habe ich auf absenden gedrückt.
Once again, you're back in those curator shoes…
Well, some people wear them over and over like their favourite old slippers — without ever stopping to think about things like:
Well well well…
I must admit, I’m guilty of at least one of the accusations.
(Just one, Your Honour — I swear!)
Yes, sometimes when my SP is just lying around and I’m super super busy, I do a bit of skim-voting.
But in my defense, those votes are usually for authors I trust. (They’re the good ones — pinky promise!)
Apart from that little slip, I can almost say "Yes" to all the other questions with a clear conscience.
Honestly, these questions/reservations should be etched into every Steemian’s
homepagebrain.Coming to the most important ones,
Because if any one can answer the first one with a clear conscience, they have passed the test with flying colours:
Yes. Yes. And YES.
Thank you for your detailed comment and self-reflection (definitely longer than a minute...), which you didn't need. But never mind, because those who need to, don't read this anyway...
Hahaha, I haven't stalked you since you have no more delegation from me. So you no longer vote for the big known users in the so known community like you did in the beginning?!... 😉
The last YES is the YES that everyone really needs to internalise. Otherwise we'll starve to death faster than Denmarkguy could ever predict!
Did I? 🤔🤔🤔
You could have told me. I did a lot of stupid things out of ignorance in the beginning. Who knows this better than you? 🤣
Everybody does! But hardly anybody reflects. At least not as fast we did... 😉
You've pretty much summed up why curating content is so complicated right now... I recently tried to automate part of my voting, and what I was going to do was support people I know are (at least) creating content responsibly. But I wasn't able to do that due to glitches in the tool, and I was stuck with manual voting. I know how the delegated part of my SP is used because it's the account of the community I'm part of... And if I could summarize my concern, it would be the general lack of awareness about what it means to share content.
It's almost like the chorus of a song: Do it with meaning, with significance.
I confess that I dislike insipid comments, which seem like they only read the title. I feel like saying, "Why are you commenting if you didn't read it?" Although I've responded that way to the most obvious ones several times. Lol.😅
I sum it up as a lack of awareness, of brainpower? And it's not like you need to write a treatise... But even a meme can be good if it has some elaboration and a message... There should be some elaboration, right?
I'll stick with your question...
If I write or do something well, whether it's beautiful, funny, with a sense of humor, or whether it's drawing attention to something that's meaningful to me, I'll be doing something for Steemit, which is creating something that's worth something to me, and that can eventually inspire others. And when I say "me," I mean anyone...
The important thing is that I do it with meaning, with significance, that I put my heart into it. Everyone will see what that something is, right?
If we expect nothing but money, what happens with anything we expect nothing but money from will happen: It'll just be a job. And as Facundo Cabral said, "He who works at something he doesn't love is unemployed." He's wasting his time.
After working late into the night yesterday to do something as an individual to keep this platform alive and fill it with human soul, but at some point simply running out of energy, I'm now taking time for you. This is polite, more important, and more necessary than a soulless "curation report," because you also took a lot of time for me. Time begins with the mental examination of what you've perceived. Be it a wonderful, literary piece, a few questions that come from the gut, or a single gif that expresses so much. Thank you for that! And that really says it all, doesn't it? We really don't need to discuss "the quality of content" anymore; we've internalised what constitutes togetherness.
Haha, it's almost funny that those (including you) who don't actually need the "required" self-reflection are using this post as an opportunity to write a detailed comment, because they're always reflecting anyway and, above all, acting or modifying their actions according to their own values. But that was kind of obvious, wasn't it? It just goes to show that all the insights gained long ago are now manifesting once more... 😉
Finally, I'd like to inform you that out of a sense of duty, I'll be working reliably and diligently for another three weeks, while I'm unemployed... 😔
Hay muchas cosas que están mal aquí, tantas que me da tristeza el solo pensar en ello.
Tambien creo que hay soluciones sencillas, pero no las van a implementar porque no conviene, la mayor parte del desorden viene porque lamentablemente es la recompensa lo que trae a muchos, si es fácil recibir la recompensa se esforzaran poco, que pasa si limitamos la cantidad de recompensas que puede recibir una cuenta en base al SP que posee? algo tan simple pudiera disuadir la delegación de SP a cuentas de auto voto, incluso aumentaría el incentivo por el encendido de STEEM, pero nadie va a tocar el sistema de recompensas, STEEM es para muchos simplemente una vaca, incluso miro con sospecha cómo ha evolucionado el precio de TRX frente al Precio de STEEM desde que Justin adquirió Steemit Inc, esta STEEM financiando el crecimiento de TRX? ¿Como afecta eso la confianza de los inversionistas?
Eso son solo puntos aislados que solo me invento para justificar que el precio de STEEM hoy es el mismo que cuando BTC valía 4kUSD y ETH 150USD.
¿Pero se trata solo de dinero? no, ciertamente no para todos se trata de dinero, pero al estar involucrado el dinero atraerás a los que solo vendrán por el intentando tomarlo de cualquier forma y si les das las formas entonces tendrás el Steem de hoy.
¿Podemos hacer que las personas amen a STEEM sin amar el dinero?
Imposible no es, muchos viven en Facebook sin cobrar ni un centavo, ¿pero cual es el camino para ello?
Querida amiga, ya sabes que solo soy un pez en un vasto océano, con suerte alguien tan importante como tu llega a leerme. ¿Me pregunto, quien tiene el poder para cambiar las cosas?
Another person who is/becomes sad when they think about Steem. That's very sad. What's especially sad is that it makes the dedicated users sad, and not those who don't care at all and even collect "rewards" for it.
I really appreciate your ideas for change. But honestly? We long-time users have thought about it and discussed it so many times. And what happened? The cow is letting us starve. There's no harvest for our efforts, only dry, parched grass with no nutritional value.
I'd love to write you much more, but it makes me sad. As sad as I've been this whole week. Is it worth it? NO!
So I'll end with a warm hug and the joyful thought that there are (still) people like you in this place increasingly dominated by soulless greed.
I don’t know. More often than not, I write for myself and don’t really care if others like it or not. I write to release, to get things off my chest. But I make sure I don’t pollute anyone’s feed with my ramblings - that’s why I stick to my personal blog and only occasionally play around with the tags.
Now, am I adding value to Steem by doing that? Depends. What’s valuable to me might be garbage to someone else.
So another question would be - should we write for others? Or should we write what genuinely interests us, even if it holds no obvious value for the community or anyone else?
In other words: does something need to be valuable to others to be worth sharing at all?
This is just one of the dilemmas faced by those struggling to keep up on this platform. We want to add value but are usually restrained by the status quo - by expectations, trends, or what content seems to be "worth" posting...
Edit: Just reflecting alongside you
I believe that you keep the platform alive through much more than "just" posting. In my opinion, it's interaction that we need to make it a place where people feel comfortable. Only then could someone stop and say, "It's cool here, it's different here, I'll linger here."
The "added value" you bring to the platform is created through your interaction, your sometimes very thoughtful, sometimes very funny communication. In that respect, you're already a big deal!
I also really like your writing; you're a deep thinker. But that's a matter of taste. "Good content," "value" - who determines that? The consumers. Whether you write for yourself or for others is pretty irrelevant (the moment you release it for public reading, it's essentially for others). The only thing that's "wrong," in my opinion, is writing for supposed standards. That takes the flavour and vitality out of every, every text.
That’s exactly the clarity I needed. Salamat. You made your points so clearly and convincingly - I rest my case.
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@chriddi. My two cents worth reply to your post.
For the amount of work that you do, and the time you spend on here, you have every right to be frustrated at the ‘sub-standard’ material that you find. You certainly are entitled to a rant and a grunt every now and then to get it out of your system. However, maybe you should take a look at the situation with a different perspective.
The way I understand it, Steem is a decentralised platform. Although there are communities to keep a look out and maintain certain standards, there is no one to evaluate members and say who can join, who can’t. Hence, you will find tom, dick, harry and karen here. They are all here for their own reasons. Some to see if they can luck it, make a coin or two in the process. They don’t necessarily care about the outcome of their actions and some do not understand what they do is not right. And then there are some who genuinely want to see if they can add value to the platform, only to be disappointed with the dismayed results of their efforts.
A lot of the stuff that goes on here is quite beyond our control. What we can do is to contribute what we can and hope that there are more like minded people on here doing the same. And if that is not enough and Steem heads south, at least we can say we did what we could.
For a long time, I wasn’t confident enough to post, or comment. When I eventually built up the courage to do so, imagine my disappointment when I got only a couple of cents for a nicely crafted post. Still, I persevere. My confidence to write and post a personal opinion is my motivation. I was slowly building my confidence. The occasional dollar or two for the posts was a bonus.
And then you came along and pointed out what I shouldn’t have done or be doing. I am more hopeful of my prospects here now, thanks to you. I am sure there are people like me doing their best without realizing what they did was wrong. They are also hoping that one day some curator will discover them and give them a chance to shine.
I guess what I am trying to say is that since we do not have a lot of choice, we got to work with what we have. You will find that other social media platforms are also having the same problems. Steem is no better, no worse. We just need to understand the situation, accept the facts and be realistic in our expectations. The less expectations we have, the least disappointed there will be. Take it easy and don’t stress yourself out too much.
Best wishes to you and Team Europe!
Cheers!
Haha, if that were important to me, I'd actually communicate with very few people here. Hmm, am I an idealistic user, a dreamer (also arrogant if I imagine I can make a difference as an individual), or just a stupid idiot who enjoys wasting time?
Thank you so much for your detailed and very well-founded comment.
What you say is definitely true: Everyone is here for different reasons, each of these reasons is justified, and I won't judge them at all.
There are so many who have taken a break from the system of building and growing something "together," who have transformed the principle of "give and take" into "I take." That worked quite well once the first "jerk circles" and bots appeared and became lucrative. It's their business – I can get annoyed about it or leave it alone (for the sake of peace). But when these people try everything (sometimes even through deliberate fraud) to stay in the "system," it makes me sad and angry.
Whoever wants to do what they want here (a decentralized platform without "rules") should do so, as long as it's not criminal or harmful to others. But anyone who wants something from me/the curators/the Steemit team should contribute to making them feel good about what they're doing.
Phew, I could go on and on (including the disappointment you mentioned about being overlooked, even though I'm working my butt off), but that just makes me sad again and reminds me that I still have a lot more to do today... 😉
Aye, aye... 😘
"If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you look at it" - Maya Angelou.
I find this quote of Maya Angelou’s very helpful. It is applicable to a lot of situations in life. What is happening on Steem is also happening in all corners, in all walks of life.
Life is what it is and will be what it will be. Being sad, angry, indignant will not help a bit. Instead, we should accept things for the way they are and deal with it the best we can.
Steem has been around for some time now. Many people have come and gone. Many will still come and go. Some who did good jobs for this platform in the early days have moved on because they felt they were fighting a losing battle. It is sad because if they had stayed, the group of people adding value to the platform would be bigger now.
How the platform will eventually turn out is anyone’s guess. Until then, we do the best we can. Understanding and accepting things as they are, we don’t add unnecessary stress to our lives.
You are doing a great job here, curating, adding value to the platform. Keep at it!. I know, there will be days when you ask yourself if it is worth it. We all have days like that. Meanwhile, keep up the good work!
Cheers!
A very wise quote. Buddhism?
I've always stuck to ‘Love it, change it, or leave it!’. I've never succeeded in loving it, I've tried changing it over and over again (rather unsuccessfully), I didn't dare to leave it - so something must be holding me.
Yes, time to stick with Maya Angelou... 😊
No questions. But the post went on to ask a lot of thought-provoking questions.😄 I love this.
Issue is, some writers have a particular view about the platform. Many may have super creative things they might like to discuss, but the fear of not receiving supports through upvotes or comments deter them from pursuing this goal.
So, they end up working with the flow. Doing the things that seem to be working and worry about taking risks that may feel like wasted efforts.
For me, I try to leave a comment on every post I read. That means spending an additional 2+ hours to the hours I spend writing one post.
Talking about posts,
It's possible to churn out an excellent piece in less than 3 hours. It all depends on your wealth of knowledge on the topic, your emotions and level of expertise (more like speed). A diary post about my day will take less than 3 hours to write and another 1+ hour to organise the images or videos. This is because I'm writing based on my emotions.
For other think pieces that demand research, reflection and deeper reflection, then I'd need some days, a few sleeps and couple of dreams to get satisfied enough to upload that piece.
I've got a reputation at stake here.😆
Nonetheless, your post brings a reawakening. I would have to improve on my writing. Probably read more interesting pieces as these will influence the quality of my thought. Also, it will make it possible to produce more interesting posts that will interest a wider audience like the ones I see on LinkedIn and the likes.
Thank you very much for your very detailed answer. I'm very pleased that my questions, which honestly arose out of disappointment, anger and despair, have inspired you.
It is clear that there are various reasons why people publish (well or lousily) on Steem. This has already been discussed many times and I don't want to repeat it. Nevertheless, to summarise: if the greed for rewards or the fear of not receiving any destroys creativity, then something is going wrong here! This statement from me as a relatively large stakeholder who would earn a lot more money if I were only thinking of myself, as most users do. Nobody seems to think as far as you and I and a few more users: this behaviour is destroying our platform. If everyone turns away because there is hardly anything interesting to read here or you have to search for it for a very, very long time, there will be nothing left to ‘feed’. We will starve to death.
I think you're on the right track. Dare to be different! Usually this is rather positive for your reputation... 😉
I make a post in 1 hour minimum time. Nope, I don't read some of the posts I upvote and I am guilty of that. I hope that steemit will give me financial freedom one of the coming days soon , haha too ambitious for a lazy person.
Haha, at least you are honest, what I appreciate. So thank you for dealing with this post, reading at least two of the questions and reflecting a bit... 😉