Trump Jr Beats Fake News Media To The Punch With Email Release

in #news7 years ago

In response to the MSM created Putin/Trump collusion meme Don Trump Jr released an email exchange

along with an explanation about a meeting that took place between himself, his campaign chairman Paul Manafort, his brother-in-law Jared Kushner and a Russian lawyer named Natalia Veselnitskaya.

In this video

Dan Dicks of Press For Truth throws a stick in the gears of the spin machine in an attempt to counter the US/Russia collusion propaganda.


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How exactly does this help Trump? This is the smoking gun that proves collusion with a hostile foreign power

you are exactly correct @preparedwombat based on what Trump Jr wrote in those emails he released he basically proved he intended to break the law... whether he is prosecuted or goes to jail is another story, since rich powerful people don't usually do jail time in the USA ;)

And just to spell it out.

  • Trump Jr.'s email literally says "This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin." It literally says the Russian government is behind the information
  • Trump Jr.'s email says that she's a "russian government attorney". Even if she isn't a government employee, the email itself presents her as one. So Trump Jr. was told he was going into a meeting with a government employee.
  • Trump Jr. also forwards the entire email chain to Kushner and Manafort who now have also been told that this was a meeting with a "russian government attorney". Kushner has failed to disclose this content in his security clearances (all contact with foreign government officials need to be documented so the intelligence agencies can ensure the safety). So Kushner is either a) incompetent and can't keep track of all his contacts with foreign government officials or b) he is hiding his contact with foreign government officials.
    • These lapses should immediately revoke his security clearance until the connection is investigated. Lying on these forms is a felony.
  • Trump Jr.'s statement said they talked about adoption policy and the Magnitsky act. ( The Russian adoption policy was enacted in retaliation to the sanctions in the Magnitsky act -
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitsky_Act). Basically she's asking for political favors in exchange for the information. Essentially: "We'll give you opposition research if you give leeway on sanctions"
    • Jr. is downplaying an obvious deal in front of him.

For those following along, here's the email from the source himself spread over two tweets:
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789839522140166
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413

DonaldJTrumpJr Donald Trump Jr. tweeted @ 11 Jul 2017 - 15:00 UTC

Here's my statement and the full email chain https://t.co/x050r5n5LQ

DonaldJTrumpJr Donald Trump Jr. tweeted @ 11 Jul 2017 - 15:01 UTC

Here is page 4 (which did not post due to space constraints). https://t.co/z1Xi4nr2gq

Disclaimer: I am just a bot trying to be helpful.

what kind of law are you talking about?

this is the law I am talking about https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
if they prosecute they have to prove intent, Trump Jr pretty much incriminated himself in those emails, because he knew he was meeting with a foreign national to get information on Hillary, so he broke the law I linked. Even though he did not get info does not matter, all that has to be proven in court is that he intended to break the law...

the law you linked talks about "contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements", or simply put money. Information is not money. Please try better.

Meanwhile here's a nice meme that's spot on for you:

The law also says no one is allowed to "solicit, accept, or receive" any thing of value from a foreign national to help a candidate. Information has value, but again that is for the courts to decide if he is prosecuted.

You do remember the fake dossier on Trump that the DNC paid a foreign agent for?

ok... not sure what that has to do with Turm Jr emails... but yes if the DNC broke the law and there is evidence to prove it they should also be prosecuted, I am not defending the DNC nor Clinton, in my opinion both Trumps and Clintons are corrupt corporatists... all I am doing is pointing out the blatant evidence in Trump Jr's owns emails that he released himself that show he broke the above law I linked.

meanwhile, Former senior counsel for the FEC confirms Don Jr DID NOT break election law. I am sure her credentials are better that yours

I think you are making a huge mental gap, but as you said it's up to the courts to decide. Still, I don't see anything wrong to have a discussion with somebody who has dirt on your political opponent, from an ethical aspect, especially if she is doesn't have any govermental ties., which she didn't.

And let's assume that ok, Trump Jr is the bad guy and what he did was treason (lol) according to the letter of the law. Ok. Why any of you aren't asking the next logical question. What kind of dirt did the russian lawyer have on Hilarry.

The funny thing is that you think this big news story (lol again) will mean the end of Trump. But instead it will backfire so hard on you. Just wait a few weeks

hehe, I did not think this was big news until Trump Jr released his emails... and I am just telling you what the law states "no one is allowed to solicit, accept, or receive any thing of value from a foreign national to help a candidate" and a court would be making the decision if Trump Jr is guilty... but look at the email exchange, it says the lawyer was a Russian gov lawyer with information about Hillary (if she was a Russian gov lawyer or not does not matter Trump Jr thought she was), and Trump Jr happily agreed to meet with her, so just based on that he intended to break the law.... I doubt that he knows that what he was doing is against the law but unfortunately pleading dumb in court does not work... regardless I have no idea if anything will become of this because people like Trump and Clinton are above the law ;)

Imagine it wasn't money, but a stolen car paid gifted by a foreign government.

The car has value and accepting this from a foreign government with the aim to influence the election is illegal. Accepting stolen goods is illegal.

It goes the same with information. Information is valuable, this particular information would be called "opposition research". Campaigns pay for this research, so when a foreign government does it for you and offers it to you, this is a contribution/donation/gift.

Additionally, Trump Jr. said they talked about adoptions and it was a waste of time. She was offering Jr. a deal and he's downplaying it.

Adoptions are a reference to the ban on Americans adopting Russian children. This ban was instituted in retaliation for sanctions imposed on Russia for violating human rights (Magnitsky Act - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitsky_Act).

She's offering the "opposition research" in exchange for a political favor from Trump in opposing Russian sanctions.

http://www.businessinsider.com/magnitsky-act-russian-adoptions-donald-trump-jr-meeting-2017-7

You are stretching it a lot to prove your point. Before I quoted an election lawyer who has a different opinion than you. Since then, more have come to say the same. Sorry an election lawyer has much better credentials than you. The courts will speak and nothing will happen. Once again, all you have is a nothing burger.

It's funny. You libtards went from "Trump is Putin's puppet" and "Trump is a Russian spy" to "the son of trump was supposed to have a meeting with a lawyer that had dirt on Hillary but they didn't meet after all" And you want to be taken seriously? And why aren't you asking what kind of dirt (if any) did the lawyer have for Hillary? You are truly pathetic and that's why Trump will win the second term. And after that get prepared for Trump jr President. He looks like a nice candidate :) The real triggering has yet to get started. Enjoy the trump train crashing you.

If he took a turd on his desk, they'd all cheer :-)

Cg

The democrats are basically the communist party now and Antifa is their army. The communists have quite a few people inside the republicans as well. McCain and Graham are the obvious ones, but there are quite a few more. I don't see this stupidity ending anytime soon and I would bet it all leads to what the powers that be really want, civil war. Not to mention the race war and religious wars they are trying to start at the same time......and of course their favorite, WW3, which they are working very very hard to get going. We have some very interesting and potentially dangerous times ahead.

Spot on! And on top of that, he was set up. This was a trap, deliberately made to look like Russian collusion.

Very true, we need to vote these people out. The lobbyist paid politician needs to be made illegal. Donations need to be transparent.

There's a Trump Jr? Holy Shit... o.O

Yeah and he is gonna be the next president in about 8 years :P

In general, would you say you are opposed to political dynasties?
As a democracy, do you think we should have more options than family lineages of leaders?

Sure am.

The USA is a Representative Republic, that elects their leaders Democratically.

In a Democracy minorities have no rights, just so you are aware. Literally the majority party can do whatever they want and don't have to work with anyone. Democracy is just having 50.001% party control and you do whatever you want to do.

Republics protect minority rights and give all equal voices.

We should have more options than family lineages, that is why I support term limits for all Public Office holders. About time we kick out these bum Senators and House of Rep people who came in there with noting and are now worth tens of millions due to lobbyists.

Well yes I am. That post was a joke :P

God bless america!

Refreshing to see someone is actually going for the facts, rather than take sides and bash. Its so tiresome.

there is no russia collusion between trump and russia, this is just a way to distract people from the real person who has ties with russia, the clintons!, they sold uranium 1 rights to russia and they call trump having ties with russia. the media keeps getting proven fake and they are slowy dying

Very true very true.

They basically are doing this to save face and try to get him impeached. But it won't work. It never works. It is just dumb bs.

The whole trump collusion i believe was also a distraction from the seth rich murder, who turns out was leaking to wikileaks.

US/Russia collusion These emails would appear to prove collusion between members of the Trump campaign. How can he help his son? I believe they'll sweep it under the rug, I truly hate this administration.

To bad it isn't illegal for a private citizen to meet with foreign people, foreign governments/officials. If it was you would have a lot of people in jail.

And also just an FYI, even if they "colluded" with them, as a private citizen or if Trump himself got info on Clinton, that isn't illegal either. Seriously do any amount of research and you will see I am right.

Just popping in to bring up the fact that Obama, as a "private citizen", met with the leader of South Korea and the anti-Trumpers cheered. I am interested in what was discussed in that meeting and seeing if laws were broken. At least with Trump Jr. we have it laid out, right there - no hiding - what was said, and we can see he walked when it was obviously not what he was led to believe. At the time, Trump Jr. was a "private citizen" so what is the big mess over with him meeting with a Russian lawyer but no hoopla over Obama meeting the head of South Korea?

i really do not see how this helps Trump! maybe i am missing something

Because it isn't illegal to have meetings. Even if the person if from another government or foreign, it isn't illegal. Just so ya know.

This will come out when those in power have to put up charges or shut up. There was no law broken, no matter how much the opposition wants. I mean, I guess it would have been different if destroyed the computers, bleachbitted the hard drives and poured acid on the remains. I mean, what innocent person would do that?

Criminals know their pedophile ring is turning into a noose around their neck. Gotta keep telling lies and try to deflect attention away from themselves. All truth will be brought to light.

And it keeps backfiring! This 'nothing burger,' will refocus attention on their own misdeeds! They keep shooting themselves in the foot!😂

LOL.... you got it backwards

Legend has it that Trump has fake hair.