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RE: Taxes, are they limiting our freedom?

in #money7 years ago

I really can't comprehend how anyone can be against the social contract, it's pretty common sense to me. My only problem with taxes is from corruption, ie. when taxes end up in somebody's pocket instead of where they are supposed to go or when the elected representatives draft tax budgets that go in favor of donors/lobbyists/etc instead of the people they are supposed to represent.

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There is no fucking social contract. Idiots talk about inexistent things and remark how others disregard their hallucinations. A contract means Intent to Contract, Full and Informed Consent, offering Equal Considerations from both parties resources by parties of the same nature.

First of all, you can't contract with an imaginary construct. You can only contract with other real people, and there's no offer to contract, no full and informed consent, no consideration, there's absolutely nothing to show that says you agree to these things, enumerating anything at all because this hallucination you're baffled about doesn't fucking exist.

You call others idiots, but you don't even realize the "social contract" is just a name for a particular state of affairs that can arise in societies, not a literal contract. As an anarchist I believe any system of power and coercion that can't justify itself should be dismantled and replaced with something more just. You are not gonna easily convince me that the social contract doctrine cannot be easily justified. You don't sign off to (virtually) anything in a society. Society has norms and also laws. You are born into it and by the time you reach age of consent you don't need to sign anything, your agreement is implicit. So you can either decide to accept them, you can challenge them or you can leave.

Of course, a figure of speech for tradition, because of course it's not any semblance to an actual contract but a "state of affairs " of how things are done / tradition.

So let me get this straight, everytime someone challenges tradition you're baffled by it, each time someone turns their back to tradition you're perplexed and confused, did you catch why I called you an idiot? Because your innuendo is all nonsense "state of affairs" "social contract doctrine". Retard, can you point out a list of laws and rules that make up this doctrine? Does it actually exist outside your nonsensical assertion that it's not anything like a contract..

everytime someone challenges tradition you're baffled by it, each time someone turns their back to tradition you're perplexed and confused,

wat

Retard, can you point out a list of laws and rules that make up this doctrine? Does it actually exist outside your nonsensical assertion that it's not anything like a contract..

haha! :D

I really can't comprehend how anyone can be against the social contract, it's pretty common sense to me.

everytime someone challenges tradition you're baffled by it, each time someone turns their back to tradition you're perplexed and confused,

Thats what.

Lol, nothing to show for social contract outside your assertion, which is that even though its not an actual contract you're not convinced that it can't be easily justified, too bad there's nothing to substitute that social contract is a "particular state of affairs", which state? Why particular? Which societies?

Keep peddling nonsense and bullshit:

Im baffled that people turn their back on a particular state of affairs, because obviously the particular state of affairs doesn't garner such sentiment of secession. . Baffling.

Haha totally lol! :D

You:I can't really believe comprehendthat people are against social contract

Me: Theres no fucking social contract.

You:yes there is, its a particular state of affairs and you can't make me believe otherwise.

Me:whats the rules and laws of this particular state of affairs?

You: laughing nervously I can't really be an idiot, speaking about things that dont exist, that haven't the slightest semblance to what they purport to be totally.

make me believe otherwise.

Me:whats the rules and laws of this

You said it haha! ;)

It is an interesting point of view. For me personally it is also a normal thing to pay taxes in order to establish a well functioning society.

Having lived in a country that has no corruption and a country with a high level of corruption, I also agree with your point that corruption is the only motivation against paying taxes.

I agree with you that the problem with taxes is corruption. The intention is good but the execution is bad. On some cases, loopholes are prevalent that the BIG fishes continue to exploit while the small fishes suffers and just accepts the outcome.

Well that is unfortunately a big part of the game. If you are big enough then you write your own rules. The classic excuse for the multi national companies is that they are creating jobs, so if the governments wants to tax them, then they would have to find an alternative. The governments therefore tends to give in.

In many welfare societies it is the tax money of the middle class that makes things run.