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RE: Boost your post with @steemtools @steemvote and @randofish

in #money7 years ago

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Using vote bots to boost your own profits is like spitting in the face of Steemit, and everything it offers. Rewards should be determined by the public, not by how much someone can spend buying votes with bots.

When I come into my super powers, I will make sure services like this get what's coming to them.

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Fight with tools. If you don't want to use the tools, you fall behind. It's a competition. It isn't cheating to use the resources available to you.

It's a competition.

This is where we disagree. You aren't here to see how much of the reward pool you can get compared to someone else, and if you are, you're here for villainous reasons. I'm with Buff on this one. The rewards are supposed to be determined by other users, not yourself.

I'm with Buff on this one

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Absolutely! It's yours.

I'm going to die laughing. You didn't understand anything I said. To say that you aren't here for money and here only for content is an absurdity. The reason we are here is because we can be compensated for the content we produce. If you were only here for the content you would disable the rewards for everything you post, however, you do not. The fact is, if you want rewarded by not only being seen but also voted for you need to use the tools available to do so. As of yet, I am to be impressed by pay for bots. We will see what happens as I have tested the @steemtools on two of my posts.

We, as content creators, are in constant competition against people who plagiarize and steal media from other sources to post here as their own to be rewarded. Being seen and being upvoted is an important aspect of growth for good creators.

How often do you flag poor and clearly stolen content? How often do you use the "promote" option? These are tools to use for us. This is only another option in shameless self promotion. And it absolutely is a competition; you are competing for viewer, for votes and for digital currency. All markets are competition. This is no different.

So I should just grab as much as I can, in any way I can, as long as I personally consider the content to be worth more than I'm earning?

I never said I wasn't here for the money. I said there's a system by which that money is to be distributed. Circumventing that system for personal gain is just as immoral as posting something that is worthless or stolen.

How is it immoral to use the tools that are available? You are not circumventing anything. These bots are a part of the system. If you use "promote" you are using a bot because a bot will come in and upvote your promoted content.

Using a tool that is available to everyone is not morally equivalent to spamming stolen content.

Using the promote tool is nothing like using a bot... There are no official bots. These are accounts set up by users.

When you spend money to promote your post, it is destroyed, decreasing the supply of the currency, which is intended to increase value. The whitepaper laid all this out for everyone, but since it's not a "rule", no one cares about how this was all intended to operate. Steemit has become a game of "who can get the best ROI?"

It would be really hard for minnows to make it anywhere. 93% of steem is already owned by 1% of users. A junk article getting submitted to an upvote bot should be discouraged and naturally unprofitable. If a quality post gets submitted, then that will give it more visibility and ability to go viral. It is necessary and profitable for both the upvoter and upvoted if the content is quality. And users will be able to see the quality content easier. From my perspective, it is necessary.

Taking away the ability for different types of upvote bots would hurt the ecosystem overall.

I think my point is still being missed. So because Steemit is "hard" to get started, everyone should just disregard how it was all set up to work in the first place until they've started making money?

Every time I argue my point, it just seems like I'm being told left and right that I should be trying to profit off the system instead of using it the way it was intended.

Thats the way to put things straight. well done

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unless vote bots are banned, bots will continually be used. minnows and quality creators are getting drowned every second. so what do you expect them to do.

They won't ban bots. If they did, the market would find a way around it. They are aware that banning bots would be like banning dandelions.

Yes,and you can eat dandelion greens if you're hungry. If other people use bots, you have to remember the old expression, "If you can't beat them, join them." If they banned bots, it would be different.

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What I don't expect them to do is go to the same shady lengths to work around the way this platform is supposed to work as those who are "drowning" others.

Totally agree ... this is like a disease, these boosting tricks follow you wherever you go ... but it is always up to us .. if nobody uses them, they cease to exist.

It isn't a disease, it is an open market place. The market provided a tool and you can choose to use it or not. There are free vote services out there and I use those as well. Every little bit helps and this is by far the best bot service I've found so far.