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RE: Magick of the GOBC- Student prep for Knight lesson #2
things certainly are different within the different groups which teach similar philosophies. ultimately initiates all learn that most of the understanding is nothing more than garbage and the few secrets that actually contain knowledge are still held onto tightly by the vatican.
I would say that the true secrets are found within the individual and cannot be transmitted. All these tools do is attempt to knock it loose to float into the initiates soul.
to reach out and grab onto what is impossible isn't done with symbolism or even the numerical mumbo jumbo taught inside of the various masonic halls. unfortunately, the only successful method is through torture and human programming which has been used in the past to invoke the universe; of which maybe only one child in a million will make any progress.
in hermetic terms - the book of job.
of course you need to be completely void of basic human decency and lack any moral fortitude in order to subject an innocent child to decades of that treatment.
i wish i could say i have never witness such activity but alas i can't.
I could not disagree more. I have been involved in the occult for more than 20 years and I feel as though I have seen a fair share of truth. The mysteries certainly can come from pain, but they also can come from pleasure. I fall more into the school of Epicurus myself. I have witnessed the real touch of God in the world and that kiss is sweeter than the most sugary candy. My experience has brought me into the arms of an angel and I have shared rum with many a voodoo Loa and on all of their lips is compassion and the real Love that no pain can touch.
people who have reached into the unknown come back changed and you can verify their change through their words as they actions and words become totally hermetic.
it's very easy to spot a fake.
Ok, Good luck on your search. I hope you find peace.