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RE: Solar energy is coming

in #life6 years ago

We have 18 panels. The previous owners bought them to power the Jacuzzi.
We sold the Jacuzzi this year because too energy consuming and we sid not use it enough!
So lots of free power 😁 what is even better is that the government pays us 450€ for each 1000kwh we produce!
Here the report for this year
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Cheers,
Peter

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In Russia solar panels are still a net loss. Not only there is low insolation, but snow... snow makes panels do nothing for a half of the year ((

is indeed very important. Wind energy could be a solution but you would need a community to fund it.
We bougth shares for our ons in a windmill park. They do get an interest of 4.4%

Russia is a big country, you cannot make general statement about its climate like that. For example, in my home region (Rostov region), solar PV cells would be a profitable investment (albeit with a long repayment period to reach ROI>1). But solar panels used for heating would be an even more profitable investment with a much shorter ROI period.

Wow @fullcoverbetting it is really good to hear you get money back from the government for those 1000 KWh, the only thing I don't understand is, do you supply back to the system, or do you get that 450 euros even when you use the electricity yourself? :)

We would even get it when we would consume all the generated power ourselves.
This idea behind it was to decrease the CO2 exhaust. It is called the "Green Power Cerificates".
For installations certified before 2009, these certificates are valid for 20 years. Since 2009 the government has decreased the value and the duration of these.
For installations after 2013 no certificates were handed out anymore!
We have still 8 to 9 years to go!

Besides that we do not consume the power generated, which is often. We do give supply it to the grid. The electricity counter runs backwards then. When there is no sun and we do consume power the counter goes forward again.
The only thing is that we can't have a negative balance. So even if you do produce more than you would consume in a year, the counter will stand on 0 for that year!

Ah Okay, I used to sell electricity in Australia as a summer job and they would actually get paid a few cents per kw/h they would deliver to the grid, so in the negative. It's a shame you don't have that, but it is good to hear you get the 450 per 1000kwh, that is 0.45 per kw/h which is really good. I live in The Netherlands myself. I think we idon'thave that, I think we have the same system as in Australia :)

While I do work in the Netherlands, I don't know neither how it works here.
My wife works in Belgium with an electric company so I do have some knowledge about it in Belgium. They are planning to let you go below 0, but then smart meters are required. The price in the electricity market can have some swings, so if you want to sell energy they need to know when.
Looked like a great summer job!

Ah yeah that makes sense. In the Netherlands most meters have been switched to smart meters :)

We are always running behind!
But we are at the World Cup 😂

Haha yeah :P well that's a good thing :)

Perfect example what I have wrote in the article, Belgium is not sunny country and Solar energy is working.
Hope that you are satisfied with Solar energy :-)
Cheers mate :-)

We are! The good thing is that the roof is southern orientated which helps a lot! I am surprised how much it produces cause the panels are already 12 years old!
Last year we did have to replace the converters, but at least that was an investment which pays itself back! Just like cryptos we hope :)

Glad to hear that :-)

Solar panels are way overpriced in my area and the tax rebate-taxes me more indirectly :(

Don’t have a clue how much they cost here. They were in the house when we did bought it 😎

I like to hear about people taking the initiative to install paneling for themselves.

That's what is required, grid scale solar plants are what gets pushed all the time, but then you have transmission and other losses that, except for more sunny areas, becomes a losing business venture.

At least as a personal venture, even if you don't make a profit, it still eases pressure on an ever more demanding grid.

Here on Belgium at least 10% of the houses do have solar panels. Most of the were installed 10 to 12 years ago when the government handed out some rewards for installing them. But because it is a free economy the prices of the channels where very expensive, because people got a lot funded by the government.
Now these rewards are dropped for new installations, but the prices of the installations also have dropped immensely !

For the grid controllers, solar panels are a real nightmare. It will make their work a lot harder. When there are only nuclear power station of others, it is much easier to predict how much energy will be produced and how much they need to buy in. With the private solar paneling it is much harder from them to predict at what capacity they should run the power plants. And don't forget that too much energy on the grid is as bad as too low energy!

In Belgium, when you do have solar panel you do have to pay an extra grid fee to donate the not consumed power to the grid. As a reward the personal counter will runs backwards. But it won't go negative.

In some cases it isn't a good investment but at least these people are doing something for the environment!

Cheers,
Peter

Hi Peter, the extra grid fee has to be paid even if you keep the energy you produce ? Is this valid also for wind produced energy ? I'm also living in Belgium .

Yep, the grid fee always have to be paid. Remeber the Turtle tax!
Don’t know about wind energy. Probably the government doesn’t know either because they don’t expect that a private person would own a windmill 😂