Quick Thought on Steemit Catfish

in #introduceyourself8 years ago


A recent post has identified the rise of identity theft on steemit. Some savvy individuals have taken it upon themselves to create introduce yourself posts that are nothing but lies. Now that we know these posts were lies we feel like our trust was violated.

Perspective is Reality

In an effort to cope with this violation, it is helpful to remember how this person made us feel when they made the post. That feeling was real, even if it was ultimately an illusion. They gave our community something we wanted and spent time and effort producing original content.

Many people who have posted pure fiction and gotten upvoted because we liked what we saw and we appreciated the effort. The catfish introduction posts are just another form of fiction writing that appealed to the voters.

In other words, the individual gave us all what we were looking for and put at least as much effort into their creative writing as other posters.

Going Forward

As Steem grows it is important that we move away from #introduceyourself posts and look for higher quality. People should still post in #introduceyourself so that we have a public record of who you are. One day that post might just enable us to recover your account if you get hacked.

I encourage people to stop voting on introduce yourself posts, but instead use the post as means to add people to your list to be followed. This way you can see more content from them in the future.

#introduceyourself is a great place to discover new writers that might be worth following. That alone should be enough reason to post an introduction. Financial rewards will come later.

Summary

Don't fret over spilt milk. People are going to game the voting and that is part of the "cost of doing business". Over time we will learn and voters will become more savvy. These catfish are just helping us learn. That which doesn't kill us will only make us stronger.

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Hi @Dan, Yesterday I exposed a conartist that made about $1000 with fraudulent posts: namely @ricegum here is my post detailing the exposure:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@earnest/community-curation-and-exposing-conartists-in-steemit-the-case-of-ricegum

Also, on that same note, today I found a fraudulent post that @dantheman upvoted to the tune of $1600
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@jesika/i-was-raped-on-my-wedding-night

Again, same pattern. Here is the source (@benslayton found it):
https://www.quora.com/How-does-it-feel-to-have-sex-with-your-spouse-on-your-wedding-night-when-he-she-is-a-stranger

Story modified here and there to be bot-detection proof.

Let me know if you value my work. Thanks.

The more likely outcome will be someone will write an article on how you did all of this and Dan and others will upvote that article (instead of yours outlining your own work) to the tune of $5,000+. I say this from experience. ;)

Will they write an article about Earnest harassing people, too?

Lauralemons' experience with Earnest

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I think this is a matter of approach. If @earnest softened his approach to people a little bit it might help and not look that way.

@earnest you do not deserve a pat on the back. You wouldn't have even caught that if you weren't looking for women to harass. You've driven a valued poster off of the site and caused a great deal of emotional distress. I speak for many when I say your contribution to the site is not valued. At all.

Apparently you do not speak for many, my last post has 45 upvotes and 2 downvotes, one of them is yours, I assume for ideological reasons.
My work has subjective value to many people on steemit and I dont think anything you say would change that.
In addition, I support and upvote the content of many women here,
its just that, unlike you, I dont support conartists that attempt to gain sympathy, attention, petty, recognition and money by pretending to be victims.
I'm very sorry that to those accustomed to privilege,
equality feels like oppression. Have a nice day.

@earnest - I'm sorry I was previously skeptical of your work. I've been reading a lot from others about the work you have done - so my apologies I was wrong. We need people like you to help weed out fraud. I hope you get more recognition.

No problem, thank you.

Thanks for the response to this. However, I would also like to point out that many of the identity thieves I have caught are actually plagiarizing introductory posts off peoples blogs -- they are not writing "pure fiction" as you say; they are actually copy-paste stealing the thoughts of real people.

Yes...and photos and names. I don't see how identity theft can be called "fiction." In my opinion, if something is a fictional work, it should be obvious as such....like "here's a short story I wrote." We see this in movies where in the credits it will say something about how all the characters are fictional and any resemblance to actual events is coincidental or something like that. Identity theft is illegal. According to this source, "One key piece to identity theft crimes is the use of specific kinds of information, commonly known as personal identifying information. ...[including] your name, ... photographs, or anything else that you can use to identify yourself." The penalties can include incarceration, fines, restitution and probation. @dan's post seems a bit dismissive in my opinion.

That is a good point, if it was copy/paste and we didn't catch it then that is a problem.

It was in the case I describe above.

Some folks be like

Sounds legit..

A few hours ago i posted 2 solution for the problem https://steemit.com/steemit/@kuriko/response-to-the-rise-of-identity-theft-on-steemit-here-s-my-solution-to-the-problem-anyx-ned-dan Seems like if you don't have a name in here or your not a whale to boost your visibility you don't get people attention.

I wouldn't agree that you simply don't get attention outright, but you certainly get less attention until you have built reputation aka SP. It's a bit unfair but not that different from real life. You've gotten 58 votes on your post which aint bad, considering the devs aren't doing much in terms of "reaching out" for solutions. Good luck anyway. Steem on.

I am not the type to complain I promise! I don't value every single ones of my post at high rewards! I just believe in this project as a whole and when I wish to send out a message to the community about potential solution to a specific problem I hope I can reach them all! I don't have the best english either so that could also put me in a difficult position! lol but yes steem on buddy!

Kudos! You have a great attitude. :)

Thanks for the update Dan. Can we also try to do something with the whale bots upvoting shitposts ?

https://steemit.com/@benjojo

This writer was pretty good IMO, but went rogue on the autovote whale bots.

Whale upvote bots are a systemic risk to Steem imo.

I love that Catfish show :) i know that’s of topic but still.

:)

My brother and I just had this same conversation. Is it the reality of the post that makes it meaningful, or the mental trip (emotions etc) it puts you through? I think it is a bit of both for me personally, but I hope this doesn't start turning Steemit into a witch-hunt platform. Downvote the fakes and trolls, but lets try and not accidentally spread this to innocent users.


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@dan Slightly off topic, but along the same lines of 'gaming the voting system' I have noticed (along with a few others), there are 30 something accounts that seem to be instantly (<1min after posting) upvoting posts with the tag 'steemit'. Just thought I would post in case you are considering changing the curation reward algorithm anytime soon.

I would imagine this is one, or a few individuals trying to get around the 30min curation reward by upvoting the same content multiple times...

Such an interesting part of the evolution of this platform. I was plagiarized for the first time...ever....if my life... on steemit. I think it's a compliment....? The community stepped right up and called the person out! Great people make up the back bones of this community for sure @dan! :) Here's the link to my post that got plagiarized and also ended up on a shout-post! : https://steemit.com/life/@missjessica/this-shouldn-t-be-so-serious-can-you-still-have-fun