RE: Talk Channel: "Comment or ask a question"/ Comente o pregunte (week 263) in the WOX
I believe the site has great potential, or rather its promise does. The whole thing about communities curating themselves, having competitions, and potentially earning some crypto in the process. Despite all of that, it shouldn't be just about money. That's easier said than done, I'm aware, but if you advertise yourself as some kind of pay-to-play content mill, that's what you're going to get. To be fair, somebody is always trying to game the system, but that shouldn't be the community ethos. Just humor me for a second and ask yourself: Would I stick around if there wasn't a monetary incentive to do so? If the answer is no, or well it depends, the site is already on the ropes. It means there's no value beyond you getting paid. That's a job, not fun. It's not even educational.
In terms of the technical aspects the site seems kind of wonky. I've recently tried talking a friend from the Philipines into creating an account, but it wouldn't even accept his number. So after an hour of trying we both just gave up. Meanwhile another friend from America tried signing up but felt like Steemit was asking too many personal questions. Which seems fair, because you shouldn't be forced to share your number to casually browse the site and post a comment or two. I understand where Steemit is coming from, but it's putting people off. If anything I would understand adding those additional layers of identification and whatnot for some optional wallet, but again. Easier said than done. Obviously I don't understand the complexities of the system, I'm just talking about nitty-gritty of how outsiders perceive the site.
Then you've got the whole crypto issue itself. As a whole the whole experience is a pain in the ass. The inability to cash out effectively would be one thing, if there were useful way of spending your balance, but I don't see any of that. I get the paradox, because people exchanging STEEM lessens the value of STEEM, I suppose. Consequently I don't understand the overreliance on STEEM or TRX for that matter the first place. An app would be nice, or just the ability to swap cryptos easily, cheaply and securily. So maybe they might end up needing a full fledged exchange, besides finding other ways of generating revenue beyond just people buying and holding coins. Or not. I'm not pretending to be an expert.
Ah, the AI stuff. I think it's both a risk and an opportunity. The language barrier keeps on evaporating, more or less, which is overall a good thing. More range, bigger audiences, different perspectives, and such. On the other hand artificial intelligence also enables scammers to game the system. I assume there will be always a demand for human content, about as much as there are factory farms and artisan ones, yet some indicator would be nice. Like, this post was handcrafted by an unaugmented human. Or, this was written without AI assistance. Maybe just translated. You know, like a point of origin. Something comparable to a stick on a box of blueberries.
There is a way to open an account without giving all your private details which is if you use steemworld.org. Many of us (depends on??) can generate free tickets and open an account for someone else. These tickets you should make yourself (I can 3 per day or so).
I did it recently because it indeed is an issue to start an account. I tried back then several times and that email never arrived! This account I had to wait for the confirmation email for 6 weeks, at that time I already given up on it. My second account was made easier with the Partiko app.
I noticed that people from some countries don't have access (no matter if they give all their personal data) while others have the account within a few minutes. The reason? The server or where we live or?
We had blocktrades to make it easier but they already gave up as names should be registered and today it's even worse, at least it is for us but it feels as if no one really cares since they have Binance or whatever.
What I do find a joke is that the whole idea of crypto was the no fee, next is was the loooow fee and now it's fee over fee which makes me think it's better to keep my Steem at coinmerce.
AI can't tell the difference between a translated text and AI written and I have got the feeling that AI has started to believe that everything written is written by AI (it depends on the checker you use) which leaves me with the question: where does the programmer steal the content from to instruct AI how to write?
Well, friend Justing Sun has a big surprise for Tron and Steemit, who knows our prayers will be answered and he give us that easy exchange option called an AID TRS Fund so we can freely exchange without paying taxes just like him, Trump & friends.
It's a long way till AI can tell the difference and there are already tools fooling AI text Checkers which makes me think how creative humankind is.
A happy day and thanks for sharing your thoughts. Like always you made my day with some of your remarks (I can't help laughing) let me know if you/your friend needs a free ticket).
I didn't even realize there was another way of creating accounts, which seems indicative of whatever I've been getting at. The whole Steemit ecosystem looks overly complicated and somewhat fractured. Granted, I'm getting old and need new glasses, but I've been doubting my own intelligence here and there (despite of on-going delusions of being slighty above average, which I'm probably not).
Most concepts seem straight forward once you understand them, but I'm still stuck with that outsider perspective. Hence me not knowing what the hell is going on, most of the times. I'm not humble bragging or fishing for compliments either, I just don't. Obviously thats mostly a -me- problem and not a -you- problem but per definition most of anything is average. So I'd argue it doesn't matter what the developers might think, if their flawless logic happens to be inaccessible to the average person.
Just take concepts intellectual brilliance compared to being insane. Without external markers of competence, like diplomas and peer groups and so on, most people can't tell the difference. Or at least that's a lasting suspicion of mine. Imagine a bum screaming his lungs out, about some perfectly valid theory of everything or something equally important. Nobody would listen. Even if they were, nobody could tell the difference (unless they're deep into the subject themselves). I'm not trying to attribute bum like qualities to Steemit or its user base, I'm merely using a little bit of hyperbole to illustrate a point.
I guess with the AI stuff they're just stealing their training data left and right. Social media, sites like Steemit, books, who knows what. That said, up until somewhat recently I would probe ChatGPT for some belly rubs. What do you think about this and that, who would you compare me to, is this good writing, and so on. I didn't really rely upon AI for edits and ideas, it was just me being narcissistic. I would feed it files with like 50 thousand words worth of stream-of-consciousness, or me working out ideas and mental images. Nothing worth bragging about, but eventually a light bulb went on and I realized I was setting myself up.
I don't care what Microsoft says, your exchanges will go into the database. Once that stuff is in there ChatGPT won't be like: Reminder, grebmot came up with the original idea, as shitty as it may be. Nah, someone is going to prompt content and the algorhitm will frankenstein a bunch of things together, some of which might be yours. It's one thing to analyze a sausage, but I don't want to give Microsoft the keys to the sausage factory itself. Does that make sense?
Either or, thanks a lot for mentioning Steemworld. That might actually pan out, but we'll see. I'm casually optimistic.
Did you try out steemworld? I should wirk. If not let me know. I believe in Talkchannel or SCB @hive-152479 this option is mentioned plus how to do it by steemchiller.
A good comment, thanks for the lively talk. The last part of your text should make us all think.
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I did! I managed to claim an account using 3 STEEM as a payment option. Which was weird, because I didn't notice any consequent withdrawals and his balance seems to be zero. Not a big issue, but it made me wonder.
Thanks for the support Kitty! Honestly I've been feeling a bit like a mooch lately. I'm thinking about having to give something back sooner or later.
Where do those ticket come from? What is needed to generate them? Old account, high level, amount of SP @adeljose?
They are not tickets as such, through Steemworld you can generate a new account using your RC.
What is RC?
I find it hard to believe that being a 2018 account, you don't know what RC is, however, I'll explain it to you.
In Steemit, every transaction has a cost, these are paid with RC (Resource Credits), each vote, comment, post, transfer has a fee, the more RC you have, the more freedom of transactions you can make. RC is related to the Steem Power we have in our wallet. If you know, new accounts have limitations since they only have 10 delegated Steem which is equivalent to 21,933,946,233 RC
See your RCs here.
Thanks for explaining. You truly believe every Steemian knows or is interested what is possible? Most just write, post, comment and that's it. For many years I did exactly the same (there was no one (willing) to explain and what you don't need is not worth breaking brains over or?
Greetings @ wakeupkitty
I often wrote articles about Steem in the past, even into series of writings, around 2017-2018. I had my own interest in blockchain technology at that time.
Most of the knowledge I get is the essence of various readings, especially on Steem, and also from conversations on discord channels. The goal is none other than to capture the knowledge I get and also share it with other Indonesian-speaking colleagues who do not have enough time to collect material and make it into writing.
Among the highlights was the Hardfork, and the most “bloody” as I recall was HF20 (otherwise known by the codename “Velicity”). Where there were some very extreme changes in the Steem blockchain including those that made it difficult for users to make transactions in the early days after HF.
If no one knows you, you are not read next to that is searching for a needle in a haystack to find your info. Is it still up to date?
Your list can be added as topics or info in ᔕᑕᗷ ᗰOᑎKEY ᗷᑌᔕIᑎEᔕᔕ
I simply believe that it is necessary to motivate users to give a little more than what they give, promote a sense of belonging to the platform, with the fact that at least one user learns, I am grateful.
Who says someone who only posts and comments and never takes a Steem is not committed? Some only like to write while other love to dive in the materie or crypto.
A sence of belonging doesn't come with bring rejected everywhere, with being forced to share everything that should be private, nor by setting 100 rules to follow. Steemit stoid forvanonomity, freedom, and so did Steem/crypto.
Knowing everything can be a burden as well and take all the fun out of posting. The percentage if Steemians with a burnout is remarkably high.
How we learn, when is different for each individual and there's a time for everything.
You might be shocked if you know how less people know but still they function and a part is at the top even grew fast within 3 months, without knowing all possibilities. 🤔
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Thank you Kitty! We don't deserve you and your gang :-)
The advertising message is very important to attract organic people, who are nutrients for the platform, however, it is impossible to hide the benefits that it provides, therefore, it is necessary to promote (as has been done) the culture of investing in the ecosystem, so that users are committed to the sustainability and growth of the environment.
It is important to know that, through Steemworld you can generate new accounts from your user, this option is valid to facilitate the integration process for those interested, where personal information is not necessary. Unfortunately, many people complain about the security systems, without taking into account that these serve (in this case), for legal issues of the platform, and to give timely responses in case of problems.
The economy and operation of cryptocurrencies will always bring uncomfortable situations, since they are still in the process of adoption, regardless of whether it is Steem, TRX, or BTC.
The topic of AI is hot and spreading, there is much to take into account, whether it is beneficial or harmful, however, we must be prepared because it is already something that is impossible to ignore.
Thank you for joining the communication channel.
No thank you for being so welcoming. I might sound cynical at times but as a whole my experience with Steemit has been a positive one. Especially in terms of my interactions with the regulars. Most of that has been pleasant.
You bring up some good points, but the crowd will judge the site superficially like they tend to do with everything else. I mean, I'm somewhat of a loser, but I've got some justifications and explanations. People to blame, fingers to point. All that. That doesn't matter to general public, even if I was totally vindicated. But yeah, the issues are probably super complicated nuanced behind that magic curtain, or whatever.
You're right about the impossibility to ignore AI. That's milestone stuff. Maybe some of it is just marketing hype, but ChatGPT has kept improving. Recent changes like allowing basic users to upload files is a game changer. Just in terms analytics.
Thank you for mentioning Steemworld as well. That genuinely helpful!